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  New and Needing Friends

  by Sawaveh in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm just going to say my name is sawaveh.

  i'm looking for some jw friend's.

  i live in wa, moses lake, usa.

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  LisaRose

  Sweetie, we are former Jehovah's Witnesses, we used to believe but we found out the Watchtower lied about many things. I can tell you that you cannot be a Jehovah's Witness if you do not go to the Kingdom Hall and attend two meetings a week, 2 hours each meeting, and go out in the door to door work for ten hours each month. You must give up Christmas, birthdays, all you non,JW friends, voting, higher education, and thinking for yourself.

  You could call the Kingdom Hall and they would send someone to study the bible with you, but be aware this is a cult, they believe all of mankind will die soon at Armageddon, except for them. They practice shunning if you become a JW but later decide to leave, all your family and friends will not talk to you if you choose to vote or celebrate Christmas, or say you don't believe the men who are in charge are being directed by God. I think you would be better off going with a more mainstream religion.
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  I think I was off the day they taught ...

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. humour

  does anyone else have those things that everyone else seems to know ... except you?

  it's like you were off the day it was taught in school and you don't know that you don't know about it.

  but everyone else does.. i have a couple .... first, days of the month.

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  LisaRose

  My head is still filled with a lot of useless facts, but I can't remember if I took my medication five minutes ago. I once won a Trival pursuit game because I knew who won the democratic primary in 1968 in New Hampshire. While that was fun, when am I ever going to need that information again? I would be glad to trade all that trivia knowledge for my short term memory.
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  Science Will Never Contradict The Bible

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so claims nuclear physicist

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  LisaRose

  If you asked a hundred scientists who work in palentology they would all disagree, but sure, believe the one scientist that doesn't even work in that field, because denial works for you.
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  Cracked under pressure

  by breezy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a big problem i have always had when talking about anything related to jw teachings, is that i get aggravated and frustrated when logical black and white concepts/scriptures are not seen/interpreted in a logical way.

  it really frustrates me having to hear '' oh no this does not apply here '' in every scripture that i bring to my parents attention.

  starting from when i was 16 to about 20, my frustrations would lead to these anger fits.

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  LisaRose

  It's understandable that you are frustrated, but It might help if you can think of it in a different way. Your parents might not have read your research because they are brushing you off, they may just be scared that you are right and they are not ready to accept that right now.A cult member will do a lot of things to avoid uncomfortable truths.

  Apologize to you parents, and accept and love them as they are. The fact is they may never wake up, and if they do, it will be in their own time, at their own pace, just as you left when you were ready. Peace comes with acceptance of things as they are, not how we want them to be.
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  JW sisters reaction to the cutbacks

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i had gone away for a rest and came back to pick my animals up.

  (yes we share one common thing.

  the love of animals).

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  LisaRose

  I think people always had pride in the organization, how efficient it was, how organized. They may not have understood why things were done a certain way, but they trusted that the GB knew what they were doing and were under Jehovah's direction, and that the work that was so important would always get done. It must be quite a shock to be confronted with obvious signs that they might not actually know what they are doing. One or two things could be ignored, but there are so many signs of trouble it's getting harder and harder to pretend that everything is fine.
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  ATT: WARNING

  by EJ257 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please be aware of everything that is happening around the world at this moment in time.

  this goes to anyone, ex-communicated, removed, serving, believer and non.

  at this point in my observations i have realized many religions/ideologies know there is some sort "end of time" or a transition into a new order of living in this earth.

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  LisaRose

  The world was supposed to end in 1897, 1914, 1925, 1975, then before the generation alive in 1914 passed away, now three overlapping generations. The Watchtower has a zero success rate in predicting Armageddon, so the chances of them being right now is zero, if they were even predicting the end, which I doubt.

  
  Another day, another crackpot preaching the coming apocalypse.
  
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  I have been informed that if u are df and you appeal the decision and you loose appeal

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the elders will keep you out longer as payback for you appealing their decision how dare you peon appeal the secret weapons design you stupid publisher.

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  LisaRose

  If you appeal it might look to them as if you are not repentant, so I think it's possible they would hold up your being reinstated, but it probably depends on the elders involved.

  It's a game that is hard to win, the deck is stacked against you from the get go. It's like being suspected of a crime, they have proven that once a cop becomes convinced you are guilty they will discount anything that would prove your innocence and focus only on the evidence of guilt. It's basic human nature to justify a decision.
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  Mormons vs. Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Downtowner in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  forgive me if this has been covered before but i haven't seen anything about it recently.. in exploring the two faiths, mormons vs. jehovah's witnesses, which were both founded in the 1800s with the mormons being slightly a slightly older religion it seems mormons is a more attractive religion than jehovah's witnesses.

  do not get me wrong, i'm not looking at joining the mormon church.

  but i still enjoy studying other faiths and different belief systems.

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  LisaRose

  The culture is very similar, a cult is a cult. They offer a few benefits that the JWs don't, they don't discourage higher education for one thing, but then they don't allow alcohol or coffee and they make you wear ugly underwear with symbols on them. When I was a JW I used to think they were so weird, and I couldn't understand how anyone could believe such nonsense, now I realize they are just different flavors of crazy, I am sure the Mormons think the same of the JWs.

  My daughter in law is a former Mormon, she was on a mission when she realized she didn't believe in what she was teaching people. I have to say her parents are far more tolerant that the typical JW parent would be about it. Our granddaughter is getting baptized in the UCC church and her parents are flying across the country to attend, I can't imagine any JW parent doing that.
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  happy holidays:)

  by SloppyMcFloppy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just wanted to say happy thanksgiving to all!!!!

  i love celebrating holidays now... even though all my family wont be there:( hoping one day they will see the "light.

  " maybe the " light will get brighter" and the jw will have a new understanding that everthing has pagan origins and its all about family on holidays.

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  LisaRose

  Happy Thanksgiving to you!
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  Passionless loveless JW.ORG. How? Why? My experience with these Pharasees.

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i studied with this guy who is now an elder in my moms hall.

  she has cancer and is black and blue from it.

  we are like real family so i invite him over for drinks and pizza.

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  LisaRose

  Other religions keep track of the elderly or sick. People volunteer to make food, visit, take people on appointments, it's considered a part of being a congregation, it's one of the benefits of a religious community. They also help the homeless and poor, even if not part of the congregation. I remember when they used to do this a little, but even that fell by the wayside in favor of field service. Nothing is important as their ministry, even though it's now rare to make converts and most of the time spent is wasted anyway. I used to talk to one or two people a morning tops. There is no love or caring in the congregations, the elders spend their time pushing people to do more and Disfellowshiping.

  As the bible says, by their fruits you will know them.