Posts by LisaRose

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Help Me Regain Contact With My Still In Family

by pale.emperor in

situation is, i'll never return to the wt.

my family with never leave the wt.. depending on who you ask you'll get the following answers when you ask about me:.

my family: he's confused.

LisaRose

It's the dilemma we all face, there are no easy answers. It's a shame your family is so brainwashed they cannot see the futility and cruelty of their actions, but that is the reality of the situation.

Some feel the effort to go back and live a lie is worth it to maintain family bonds , others do not, it depends on your feelings about your family and the toll it would take to live a life you don't want. My choice was easy, my parents are gone, my children are not in the religion and I value living my life on my own terms more than the association with my two JW siblings, as much as I care for them. But that's me, your milage may differ.

My suggestion: If you do go back, make it clear to your mother that you are doing this just for them, but that it is going to take a toll on you to live something you don't believe in, she should know she is hurting you. If you don't go back, write her a letter and tell her how much her stance is hurting you and your child. And don't let her have access to that child, she doesn't get to reject you and see her granddaughter. Find a nice older woman to hire as a babysitter so your daughter gets the love of an adoptive grandma. If I lived in your city I would do it for free. Not to brag, but my "itsy bitsy spider" skills are top notch.

Only you can decide what is right for you.

Lisa 🌹

18

The bitter reality of death

by Bonsai in

been a lot of death in my life recently.

a close family member died yesterday.

a close friend died 8 weeks ago - both from cancer.

LisaRose

I am sorry for your loss Bonsai, I am sure that must be very hard. I am struggling myself with all the recent news reports, it's almost too much to take in, so I feel your pain.

Your words are so true, no matter what we may be going through, each day is a gift and we should treasure it.

Lisa 🌹

16

I need a little help

by Darryl in

my story is i've been df'd for about 20 years.

a couple years after i started attending church and found it to be a tremendously uplifting experience.

from the people to the music, message everything drew me in.

LisaRose

If there was a scripture that mentions donkey poop laying on some dirt they can decipher the scripture and tell you who the greater donkey poop and the greater dirt is

LOL, too true. If you could figure that one out, I don't think you need anyone's help figuring the rest out. Just look at the facts and use those same critical thinking skills.

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Male Prostitutes in demand during RNC convention

by Coded Logic in

among those making cleveland extra gay this week are male prostitutes who are in high demand among older, allegedly heterosexual male republican delegates.. the new york post reports: .

i’ve seen 10 clients so far,” one male escort said.. “most of them were first-timers.

you could tell they were nervous, but once they became more comfortable, they seemed to be having a good time.”.

LisaRose

Well, it's an interesting report, can you really read anything into the anecdotal comments of a few male prostitutes? It wouldn't be surprising if true, the phenomenon of closeted gay men in the Republican party is not unknown.

Millie, of course Dems do this, but most democrats do not hide their homosexuality because it's not as unacceptable to be gay in the democratic Party. It's the hypocrisy of hiding what you are and as a gay man supporting a party that is against gay rights.

To be fair, they did have an openly gay man as a speaker this year.

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God is Real in Principle

by looter in

jw
friends

now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

LisaRose

I believe I am more moral since I became an atheist.

Before, I followed a set of rules decided on by someone else. I didn't always think through the consequences of my actions, because if I was following the rules I figured I was fine. I was honest, law abiding and moral, in the traditional sense, but I didn't worry about the environment, social injustice or the consequences of blindly following my religious leaders.

I am still honest, law abiding and moral, but more importantly I think through the consequences of my actions in deeper ways. I realize God is not going to fix everything, so I have to do what I can to help the environment and make the world a better place. I don't follow anyone blindly, I think for myself. I am kinder, more tolerant of others and overall a better person.

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Conventions that are out of touch with reality

by Captain Schmideo2 in

jw
friends

watching the news from the past few nights, i have come to the conclusion that the only convention that's crazier and more out of touch with reality than a jw convention is a us political convention.the strange-o show that is going on right now in cleveland, oh makes watching a bunker video look more sober and realistic by comparison.i have made the effort to do my civic duties as a voter, but these conventions require a devotion that is fanatical..

LisaRose

There isn't shouting and chanting, because it doesn't fit with the Watchtower's concept of itself, but if the Watchtower wanted shouting and chanting, there would be shouting and chanting.

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Do you think any animals will ever reach human intelligence?

by EndofMysteries in

if all life was truly random, then what happened that allowed humans to it's current intelligent state, do you think non humans could and will reach that in the future?

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LisaRose

My cat gets food, water, toys, treats and cat nip on demand, goes in and out whenever she pleases and I even clean her litter box. I'd say she is already the smarter one.

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New Here ... Just woke up

by Sevan in

jw
friends

hey all, .

this is my first post.

i haven't been out in service or to a meeting in over a month.. i realize now that i've been having serious questions for years and many articles and talks have greatly disturbed me over the years.

LisaRose

Thanks corruptgirl. I appreciate the advice. I will work on slowly and subtlety getting my husband to see TTATT.

You might find this useful:

Guide to Helping Others Break Free

21

Hello from the other side

by Theburstbubble in

well it's been 18 months since i left the witnesses.

my goodness what can i say?

well let's start from the beginning.... 1) i am happy, yes i am (i know im not meant to be as the jw's would like to believe).

LisaRose

I hope and wish that there is an afterlife, however I do not live my life as if there is. I wake up each morning and enjoy each day for what it is. I appreciate the beauty all around us.

Sounds like you are doing very well, this is a great way to live.

127

Racial Insensitivity

by Coded Logic in

"blue" lives matter!

- sheriff david clarke at the rnc.

this bs really makes my blood boil.

LisaRose

Apparently some want the expression "all lives matter" to be considered racist.

Well, yes some, just as some cops are racist, so what? That there are extremists in the movement doesn't invalidate the movement. While it isn't racist to say all lives matter, it does seem like an attempt to trivialize the BLM movement. It's not wrong for the black community to want to bring attention to this real problem by saying that black lives matter, they aren't saying or implying that other lives don't matter.

Assuming that the number is correct, do we take into account other statistics that show that black people are more likely to commit violent crimes? That 31% needs more context to be evaluated correctly.

Well, yes, we all know the statistics that black people commit more crimes, but pulling people over simply because of the color of their skin because statistically they are more likely to be involved in crime is racial profiling, and it's just plain wrong. It might make sense to the cops, but it's very unfair to the many innocent people that do get pulled over. The problem of driving while black is real.

I worked with a woman who lived in a mostly white, affluent suburb. Her husband was pulled over by the police four times in a year. There was nothing wrong with his car or his driving, he never got a ticket. He finally started wearing a cowboy hat and put a decorative decal in his pick up window and the problem stopped. Imagine if that were you, would you feel safe living in that community? How would you feel about the police? When you do get pulled over, would you not be just that much more afraid?

Things like this erode confidence in the police and may even be contributing to the problem. If you are a young black man who is struggling with the factors that make you more likely to commit crime (poverty, unemployment, peer pressure, etc.) , what effect does it have on you that the police already treat you as if you are guilty?

These are complicated issues that defy easy solutions, but racial profiling is not the solution.