Posts by LisaRose

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American democracy in crisis

by slimboyfat in

okay cut to the chase.

the united states has got a problem.

hillary clinton is so unpopular that practically any republican who ran against her would probably have beaten her.

I am holding my nose and voting for Hill. The choice between a dishonest political hack and a narcissistic idiot is pretty clear to me. With Hilary you get the status quo, big business gets its way as usual, but the country goes on, hopefully we can get some better choices going in four years. With Trump, who knows if there will even be a country in four years? This is a man who doesn't respect civil rights or the constitution and wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on the ass. How anyone could still imagine this vain, petty, vindictive peacock would be anything but a disaster if elected is beyond me.

If there were a viable third party candidate I would vote for them but there isn't and I'm not willing to risk Trump getting elected by splitting the Democratic vote.

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Woman's Purpose

by StopTheTears in

jw
friends

i'm probably going to say some things here that will disappoint many.

there are some that may look back over the years and say "man i really blew it" i'm not writing the following to scold for failures, but rather to help those who are young enough to put into practice what god wills for their life, and also to those of us who are in our middle years that still have time to change some things, in order to please god and find a peace that only being in his will can bring.

first let me say that god didn't create man for you.

LisaRose

LOL

I wouldn't waste my time refuting such ignorant nonsense, anybody who would post this is clearly impervious to reason and logic anyway.

Careful you don't injure your knuckles as you walk away, the ground is rough.

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Why are the atheists on this site so hateful?

by HopeEverLasting in

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friends

all us creationists try to do is offer true evidence that the one and only god is out there watching and looking down on us.

we present that certain scientists know the truth about god and that he is everything that we see from trees, life, weather, the air we breath, and even the most simple molecules.

but of course you atheists reject it because it is your nature to not be humble and see god because you want to rule your own life.

LisaRose

All us creationists try to do is offer true evidence that the one and only God is out there watching and looking down on us.

You have offered zero evidence so far, just a bunch of assertions with no proof. When people call you on this you get irate and call names, so you are the hateful one. If you want people to just agree with your ridiculous arguments then go to church where that kind of thing is accepted, but don't expect to sell it here, we aren't buying.

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There is science that prove God exists

by HopeEverLasting in

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friends

jehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.

there is another mode for how he exists.

now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.

LisaRose

Well put Island Man

Viviane, you rock.

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Fate, chance, divine retribution or sh*t happens?

by eyeuse2badub in

fate, chance, divine retribution or sh*t happens?.

so i described a cordial conversation with my jw wife and super-duper jw mil last week in which they encouraged me to ‘return to jehovah’.

i told them that i would not be fooled thrice.. later that week we were discussing a fine mutual jw friend, ‘brother x’, that met with a very untimely death.

LisaRose

Its called confirmation bias. People tend to believe and remember that which confirms their beliefs and to discount and forget that which does not.

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Ponderings of a Worldly Person

by Nevuela in

35-year-old female in california here.

never a jw, but have had bible studies and attended several meetings and even a convention once.

i've always been agnostic with leanings toward the belief in some deity or other, although the more i learned from the jw's, the more i've learned to doubt, not just their teachings, but the fundamental teachings of all religions.

LisaRose

There is a certain type of person who likes to think they have some special knowledge that other people don't have, which us why they are drawn to conspiracy theories, like the illuminati. . That same type of person, if they are a JW, likes to claim to be of the anointed, as that makes them feel special also.

There is no illuminati, there is no anointed.

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Hello Folks

by Tallon in

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friends

a newbie here, joined about half an hour ago.

i started the fade about 10 years ago and have been totally inactive for about 3 years.

the reason being was that i became totally disillusioned.

LisaRose

Welcome, glad you joined.

Lisa 🌹

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Can an atheist date jw?

by concernCitizen in

hey everyone!.

first of all, i'm not a jw, in fact i'm an atheist, or if you really want to be technical about it i'm probably something like an agnostic atheist or something.. but, my girlfriend is a jw, she seems very rational about it though, it seems to me that she believes in a lot of it but not exactly all, for instance she does understands and believes in the scientific age of the earth and evolution.. when we started dating almost a year ago she made it clear she as religious person.

i never saw that as a problem, it's not like i'm trying to convert her or she's trying to convert me.

LisaRose

What do you think about the situation?

It happens all the time. There are far fewer men than women in the organization, which is a problem because they do not approve of marriage outside the organization, and do not allow sex outside of marriage, which creates this situation of dating on the down low.

Do you know of cases where people got kicked out of their home because of disassociation?

Yes, it happens all the time.

What would you do in my situation or in hers?

She should research the history of the religion and find out how much of it is based on lies and half truths, that would free her to date whoever she wants. I dont expect that will happen because this is a cult and they use manipulation and mind control to convince people they are the only true religion and if they leave they will die at Armageddon, which is happening any day now. Its almost impossible to counteract this. For example, she believes anyone who leaves the organization and speaks out against it (like me) is a "mentally diseased apostate". She will believe anything I or anyone here says is from Satan.

I would advise you to forget her and find someone without all the baggage.

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So This is What They are Studying This Week at the Mid-Week Meeting -"Don't Give Way to Doubt"

by xjwsrock in

this week they finish up a chapter in the "imitate their faith" book about peter.

they cover the account of jesus walking on water.

in the story peter also walks on the water out to jesus.

LisaRose

Ignore your common sense and good judgement, bury your head in the sand and keep doing what you are told.

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Abandoned by JW and yet trapped

by awake!watcher in

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friends

had an enlightening discussion with my 20 something, baptised, awake son.

he said he feels abandoned by the religion, and yet trapped at the same time.

i had never thought about it that way before, but can totally understand where he is coming from.

LisaRose

Isolation is a tactic of all cults. First they isolate you from anyone not in the cult, which they do by demonizing all other religions and anyone not a JW. Then they manipulate you to stay in the religion by using the threat of shunning, which is very powerful because it involves everyone you know. Social isolation is very detrimental to a person, which is why shunning is so effective.