I have some of the Yorkshire tea, it is very good. They sell it in the US at Peir 1 imports. I like it black usually, but sometimes with a little honey. I also like Herb Tea, mint or Chamomile.
LisaRose
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Have You Changed Since Getting On To This Site?
by minimus inare you the same poster/person now?
i have seen many posters mature here.
some still act like jws but others have shown recovery and progress from the witness mentality..
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LisaRose
When I first left the JWs, I wasn't sure if it was "The Truth" or not, but I knew I couldn't do it any more. By the time I found this site, I had realized that this religion was not "The Truth" but it did help me to understand how and why I had been deceived, so it was a big help. But at that point I wasn't sure I believed in God, and I still had an aversion to organized religion. I think that is a common response to leaving this religion because as a Witness, you are so conditioned to hate and fear other religions. Even when you realize tatt, that hate and fear of other religions does not automatically go away. As Flying High Now said, the thinking patterns of this religion are still there. This site was a big help in helping me to ununderstand and overcome that thinking. The JW mindset is very black and white, everything has to be completely wrong or completely right. I began to see it doesn't have to be that way.
I think it is also common to lose your faith in God when you leave this religion. When you break free of the JW mindset, it is only logical to challenge all your previously held beliefs I realized that there is no proof that he exists. If he does, it's pretty obvious he does not involve himself in the affairs of man. I never really considered myself an Athiest, as that would suggest a conviction I never felt, but I couldn't say I was a believer either. I realized I didn't have to be one or the other. At that point I took a break from this site and focused on other things in my life.
So here I am 12 years out of the religion. I began to visit this site again. It helped me to realize that I do still believe in God, but that belief is completely different that When I was a dub. I know I could never argue for my belief in God, it's more of a personal thing, just something I feel. I no longer have that kind of black or white thinking, for me that was what led me to be fooled by the JWs, and that is what keeps so many of them stuck, unable to leave. There is science, which is based on evidence, and belief in God which is a matter of faith. I am even coming around to the idea of joining a church.
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JWs in China?
by crochunter indoes anyone have any info about jw in china?
i've never heard about this topic?
since everyone is supposed to be witnessed to, china is obviously important.. thanks.. croc.
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LisaRose
When I became a JW, in 1969, I was taught that all the earth had to be Witnessed to, and not just a token leaflet type thing. Yet, somehow this was supposed to happen by 75. Jehovah was going to "speed it up in his own time"'. I can believe how gullible I was to think that China, with it's billions of people would be Witnessed to in 6 years. The numbers just don't work, and never will. The vast majority of the world have no idea who Jehovah's Witnesses are. Even in Christian nations, most don't have any idea what they believe. Yet a loving God is going to destroy all these people, and save a few million JWs, because what, they find't read a magazine, or never got one? Right......I don' t know how I ever swallowed this bunch of horse pucky.
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I Still Can't Celebrate Xmas. Can You? Christians vs Atheists
by Malsonilla inwhile in the organization we learned one bit of truth regarding christmas; that it was originally a pagan observance, the summer solstice, adopted by christians much later in church history, and has nothing to do with jesus christ whatsoever.
no biggy for most true believers who left the organization who have slipped into (or fell back into) the grind of commercialized christmas with all the trappings and traditions of ritual binge spending that takes them even farther away from jesus than christmas' pagan roots ever could.
these true believers might say something like, "i know xmas has its roots in paganism, but we celebrate anyway because of x y z", perhaps echoing or paroting the frustrating responses we use to hear from "worldly" goats/folks when we would explain to them how christmas is not a christian observance whatsoever.
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LisaRose
Whether we celebrate Christmas or don't, the nice thing is we can do as we see fit, we are not forced to celebrate nor forbidden to celebrate, we can do as little or as much as we want. After 30 years as a JW, I am happy to have a choice.
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WT Elders school: The WTS has progressed from just plain stupid to dangerously stupid
by sir82 infresh off the recent 1-day elders school.
to keep things readable i'll post "highlights" over the next several days in different topics.
point 1: they have progressed from "just plain" stupid to dangerously stupid.. .
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Do the elders receive any training in mental illness?
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Do you use a Nook or Kindle?
by sabastious ini am thinking about getting one.
do you use either?
would you like to give a review on the product?.
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LisaRose
My Kindle fire stopped charging, so they gave me the new Kindle Fire, HD. I loved my Kindle, but the Fire is way better. I wasn't able to post here with out doing a text insert (and it didn't work very well) , but now I can directly post. The screen is much easier to read. This was the first time I ever purchased a warranted, so glad I did.
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Jehovah's witness meetings are NOT BORING......
by punkofnice in...i was told but they usually were as i look back.. as a lad i'd sit and look to see who the lights would fall on.
i'd get an almond and see how long i could suck it before i chewed at it.
i'd imagine playing rock'n'roll on the congregation's piano.. how did you get through the meetings when you were bored?.
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LisaRose
I found the meetings to be horridly boring, and always struggled with forcing myself to go. I found out after I left that I have ADD, so that was part of the reason, but really, they were just repeating the same thing over and over.
I sometimes go to church with my husband's parents when we visit. I find them to be very interesting. They have a top notch choir, so that helps. The sermon is only about 20 minutes long. People talk about those who they know that are having health or personal issues, even if they don't go to the church. I think I could stand to go to church if it was like that.
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So, I had a thought about wicked spirits lately...
by sd-7 inthe whole reason i even got dragged into this jw stuff, and we didn't just become somebody's return visit they never came back on, is because my mom claimed that the demons were talking to her.
they told her that the jws knew the truth about them, so she called the local kingdom hall.
bible study was started, and that was that.
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LisaRose
As a JW, I heard all the demon stories, and believed them. After 30 years of being a JW, I came to believe they were all hype. I was a garage sale junkie, yet not one thing I ever bought was demonized. I was around when the Smurf modern urban legend came around and had to comfort my daughter, who was terrorized by her grandmother telling her that her toy was demonized. I didnt believe it, but we had to throw it away anyway. I believe the human mind is strange think and I think many people create these fantasies in their own disturbed brains.
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Hi guess i may have to introduce myself
by rickisteel inhi im from the uk im 42 years old , i was brought up as a witness from birth to 12 years of age i left the meetings with my parents ,.
i had a wild youth was a bit of a rebel involving alcohol ,drugs , heavy metal and motorcycles , i was thrown out of home at 17 my sister was 14. and was discarded as my parents remarried and neither of there new partners wanted us (baggage) , anyway by the time i was married and 21. somebody spiked my pizza with lsd (cant remember the flavour ) and for the next 3 days i thought the world was ending , i called my dad and rambled some stuff to him ( cant remember exactly but the world was ending in my head) a little while later i got a witness call briefly , i found out where he lived and went and asked him for a bible , he suggested i have a bible study me and the wife took the offer and so it began again , i was baptised in 93 and went from strength to strength in the truth , aux pioneering , volunteered for everything , talks , cleaning , meeting parts etc was soon appointed and moved on giving public talks , assembly parts , shepparding calls etc , then in 1997 my wife fell down a kerb and damaged her cruciate ligaments several operations later and disabled ( by the way the brothers /sisters in the cong were great at this point ) my wife began to act odd 1n 1999 she tried to take her own life and over the next several years took 26 overdoses and spent much of her life in phychiatrict hospital in 2001 she was bi polar disorder type rapid cycling (not the common oh i feel a bit low type bi polar but the full blown rollercoaster ride bi polar) .
the thing that struck me was i began to feel like a leper and despite a couple of close friends nobody in the cong or on the circuit( long time friends) seemed to care , i brouht up the kids on my own visiting my wife in hospital and caring for her at home , i felt so alone , when i used to take the kids to the meeting / assembly on my own i just got tutts and sad headshakes "she not come" ?
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Rikisteel, I am so sorry you are going through this right now. (((((hug))))). First off, there is really no such thing as an unforgivable sin. Jesus Christ did not die for only some of our sins, his sacrifice was for all sins. Secondly, the idiot that told you that has absolutly no way of knowing whether or not you had committed an unforgivable sin, even if there was such a thing. It is NOT his place to judge you, so his words are less than meaningless
I have been mostly housebound due to health issues and it can be quite isolating and depressing. Your feelings and problems are pretty normal for one exiting a high control religion, you have had the rug pulled out from under you. That being said, it is time to heal and get on with your life. Being isolated is contributing to your issues. try to find something to do that you enjoy and puts you in contact with others. It doesnt have to be a lot, even a few hours a week. I started volunteering with the elderly and started a small home based business. That gives me some social contact and makes me feel more usefull.
As far as Christmas, there is no need to start celebrating if you don't want to, but it may be that you are just depressed and that is why it doesnt seem appealing. This is the time of year when people get seasonal depression due to the shorter days and less sunlight. Get some sun if you can, or take fish ol and B vitamins. It works like magic for me. I like the idea of sending a winter themed card, there is no reason to hide out from your relatives. The fact that you are leaving your religion is probably not that big of a deal to them, they will just be happy to have you back in their lives at Christmas. So just practice to say something about it, but dont go into detail. like "well, after doing some thinking about it, we realize we were wrong to stop celebrating, so hey "Merry Christmas!"
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I Got A Brand New Adjustable Bed, Mattress & Boxspring And I Am Sick To My Stomach!
by minimus inthis is an expensive bed.
i've slept on it twice and have gotten sick!
eyes begin to water, i have difficulty breathing.
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LisaRose
Many Mattresses are composed of materials that outgas for a while after you buy them. the same thing happens with carpets and cars. It is toxic, so if you air it out for a few weeks, it would be better. You can buy all cotton mattress, but they can be quite expensive. If you are that sensitive to it, I would reccomend taking it back and finding one that is not as toxic.