LisaRose
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Pride or Humility - I guess it depends how you look at it..
by bradford inone of the constant themes of the literature and of the well meaning witnesses who regurgitate it to those that have left or are in the process of leaving is this:.
you are filled with pride.
you think you know better than jehovah's organization.
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LisaRose
Wow, thanks! Yes, of course, feel free to quote me. -
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How do you feel about religion as a whole?
by FatherFirst init just seems to me religion in general primarily makes truly bad people worse, not genuinly good people better; and in many cases has even made good people do bad things in the name of their religion.
just curious, a personal poll if you will.
what are you guys' current views on religion as a whole?
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LisaRose
I don't belong to any religion, but I don't condemn religion as a whole. While there certainly been a lot of evil done in the name of religion, I have seen some good religions too. While I don't believe in God, I don't think everyone is ready to accept that he doesn't exist. Until we get to that point, I think a good religion, one that accepts science and doesn't promote hatred, is better than a bad one. Maybe eventually religion will be done away with, or maybe it will evolve into something better, who knows? I do think you cannot force people to give up that which brings them comfort, which for many is belief in God.
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Pride or Humility - I guess it depends how you look at it..
by bradford inone of the constant themes of the literature and of the well meaning witnesses who regurgitate it to those that have left or are in the process of leaving is this:.
you are filled with pride.
you think you know better than jehovah's organization.
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LisaRose
My answer to such a statement would be that if God exists, he certainly expects me to use what reasoning power I was blessed with to determine the best way to live my life. I would think he wouldn't want me to blindly follow others, but to do the hard work necessary to determine what organization, if any, is doing his will.
Having done this hard work and thoroughly investigated the WTBTS, and found that they lied about their history, beliefs and practices, honesty compelled me to sever my association with it. It was a very humbling experience to admit that everything I believed in was a lie, but that is my belief and I can do nothing less than follow my conscience, however hard that is.
If that makes me prideful in the eyes of others, then that is regrettable, but if they would condemn me without doing the hard work I did to determine the truth, then they are the prideful ones, not I, as they have blindly accepted an elaborate lie as the truth and then condemned for not doing the same.
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to date JWism has defined my life and i hate that TRUTH
by oompa inand i am finding the adjustment to the real world far more difficult than i ever imagined...i f...it has been about five years since i totally woke up to the fraudulant nwt and then all my other doubts i had carried for years were proved true as well.
but almost all of my few friends are exjw or slack jw's and i feel so isolated...my sons friends are mostly exjw too but not their gf's and they have way more normal friends .
how have you done at replacing lifelong friends and family?
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LisaRose
Eric was very active on this site and we all miss his presence and sense of humor. Sadly he is one of many Jehovah's Witnesses I know of who took their own life when the pain became too much.
If you are suffering from depression, please get help. Don't let this heartless organization win. There is help for depression and there is life after leaving the Watchtower. We are all only human, so stop feeling guilty if you have done wrong by the Watchtower's warped standards.
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i will just set this right here.
by Defianttruth inhttp://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-you-get-tricked-into-believing-stupid-things/
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LisaRose
Very good article. It explains how as Jehovah's Witnesses might have done things that we now find repugnant, like shunning family or refusing to give a child a blood transfusion. -
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LisaRose
A nice turn around for the son of God. The org chart of a few years ago didn't even mention him, the governing body was shown right below the big J, with no mention of Jesus at all. A remarkable change really. I guess they realized a supposedly Christian religion should at least mention Jesus once in a while, even if the governing body think they are equal to or greater than he is.
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What's with the hijab?
by jws inthe hijab is one of a few headdresses worn by muslim women.
from what i can tell, it is supposed to hide the femininity of the woman.
because i'm sure as a muslim, it's going to all be the woman's fault if a man acts improperly due to attraction.. i don't agree with it, but hey, it's their religion and it doesn't hurt others, so have at it if you want to wear it.. let's face it.
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LisaRose
I think there are many reasons for a woman to wear a Hijab. I think some younger women wear one because of family pressure, so they otherwise like to dress as any other young girl, with fashionable clothes. Some older women wear ne, not for religious reasons, but for cultural reasons, they have always worn one and and do not wish to change.
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I have a serious problem
by My Name is of No Consequence ini have a serious problem that i cannot solve on my own.
i was born-in but am only in by a thread at this point.
i quit the tms a few weeks ago and wrote a post on it.
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LisaRose
I agree with Oubeliette. Imagine that you were still a believing JW and your wife was Catholic. Would you allow a priest to indoctrinate your son into the Catholic faith against your wishes? Would you meekly accept it when he refused to even discuss it?
I know it's hard, but you must stand up to these clowns. It's hard because you have been conditioned to meekly accept the authority of the elders. Even when you realize it's not "The Truth" you are still being affected by the mind control and they still are exercising authority over you. They only have the power you give them.
Tell your wife that if she is not respecting your headship and it needs to stop. Personally I think the headship thing is nonsense, but supposedly she should still follow it. Tell her you will study the bible with your son and use that as an opportunity to counter the Watchtower indoctrination. That way you can help him see the Watchtower is not following the bible.
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The "5 Pillars" of Witness life...
by stuckinarut2 inoh, there is one brother that keeps prattling on about "the 5 pillars of faith and worship".
- prayer.
- personal study.
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LisaRose
Ahh, the five most important thing to do as a JW, the solution to all problems, the cure for all ills, Watchtower snake oil. Depressed?Pray more. Sick? More field service will fix that. And if that doesn't work you lack faith and didn't try hard enough. -
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Trend of Fewer Baptisms Continues: Latest JW Conventions in New Zealand
by steve2 inthe round of "international" conventions that started in the middle of last year in the states "wrapped" up last weekend in new zealand.
there was some media converage (from which i derived the information that follows).
(someone who knows how to copy links may be able to provide the relevant media links?).
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LisaRose
It almost would have been worth it going to the convention to see a baptism talk with no takers. *Awkward* they can't even get nut jobs and little children to join the cult these days.