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  Article: Five JWs Deported from Bali for Conducting Door-to-Door Religious Ministry

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.balidiscovery.com/messages/message.asp?id=11719.

  dismantling the watchtower .

  five jehovah witnesses deported from bali for conducting door-to-door religious ministry .

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  LisaRose

  Where oh where were Jehovah's angels that support the preaching work? It's almost like they don't have any special protection at all.
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  Every Governing Body Decision is from Jehovah

  by B4Right in

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  2. bible

  how do you convince a jw that every decision that comes from the governing body is not from god?.

  my mom who is a pioneer said that the students are getting their work book a month early, then proceeded to say " jehovah knows what we need".. for you who now know ttat what did it take for you?.

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  Magical thinking is the attribution of causal relationships between actions and events which cannot be justified by reason and observation.

  Jehovah's Witnesses aren't the only people to engage in magical thinking, but they do seem to have perfected it into an art form. It must be the cult mind control that causes them to think things must be true because they need them to be. Your mom gets her books early, which helps her, therefore Jehovah must have planned it that way. There is zero evidence that God was involved, but she looks for things that confirm her faith, while discounting things that would tend contradict her beliefs. She needs there to be a God, so she she's evidence where there is none.

  I see this kind of thing everywhere, like when people's say that everything happens for a reason. What would be the reason for the holocaust then? Good things happen, bad things happen, there is no plan, nobody is at the controls, no one is ever going to be, however hard that is to accept.
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  In a nutshell, what is the wackiest jw thing?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is the wackiest...strangest....most unusual jw teaching or practice?

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  LisaRose

  If a woman doesn't fight off a rapist she is guilty of fornication. Even if the rapist has a gun and she fears for her life she cannot submit.

  Actually this counsel is for her welfare; for, if she should submit to the man's passionate wishes, she would not only be consenting to fornication or adultery, but be plagued by the shame.
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  Here at last, My JC letter. No response but heard thru the grapevine that I was DA'd anyways.

  by Question_Mans_interpretation in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello all, i finally got around to posting my letter to my judicial committee meeting requests.

  sorry its kind of long, it came to 4 pages because of the special meeting requests.

  tuesday january 28, 2014.

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  LisaRose

  As Jehovah's Witnesses we all thought we belonged to a loving organization that valued truth and justice. It's a bitter pill to swallow that none of these things are important to the them, they only care about quickly getting rid of any individual that they feel threatens them. They do not care about individuals, only about keeping people ignorant of their shameful history and practices. Truth does not matter, justice does not matter, individuals do not matter. It's a cult, that's,what they do.

  It's a hard transition to make, losing your friends, family and way of life, but it does get easier. While you cannot replace family, you will make new friends and you will have a better life, free of the control of a heartless cult.
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  Oregon, Hillsboro Tribune, Article: Jehovah's Witness sex abuse case in feds' hands

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.pamplinmedia.com/ht/117-hillsboro-tribune-news/255785-125363-jehovahs-witness-sex-abuse-case-in-feds-hands.

  lawsuit seeks $10.5 million from hillsboro church, watchtower society .

  attorneys for a 40-year-old woman and a 38-year-old man who say they were sexually abused nearly 30 years ago by a church elder in hillsboro want to have a lawsuit filed by the pair last fall placed back in state court jurisdiction.

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  It seems the Watchtower would rather lose these lawsuits than turn over the requested documentation. Obviously whatever is in these documents is potentially more damaging to them than losing millions in judgements. Obviously, what is in there is so damming they stand to lose a substantial number of followers (and more importantly, they money they contribute) if it becomes known.
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  Memorial Invitation campaign—A bitter experience

  by economy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last year when i went to distribute memorial invitation, i had a bad time talking to a house-holder who happened to be an ex-nun.

  she said: you are wasting your time.

  jesus had no idea that his death would have a sin-atoning value (which is of course a later invention by later theologians.

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  So true. The bible is simply a collection of stories and opinions written by various men over several centuries. It does not contain any clear, unified message as claimed by the Watchtower. They can only present the illusion of such by selective quoting of isolated scriptures even parts of scripture while adding a lot of convoluted explanations.
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  A new low in public shaming (and groveling)

  by Captain Schmideo2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a local elderette at my former hall (the same type person who posts selfies while out in "service") posted this public admonishment.

  the responses are so pathetic.

  these are all adults, but they still act like scared children:.

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  LisaRose

  Nothing like a dose of public shaming to make you feel all warm and fuzzy about your congregation. I wonder how many are doing a slow burn because they had a legitimate reason for not staying but didn't feel they had to explain themself to sister bitchy pants?

  It makes me think of this scripture:

  Matt6:1 "Beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven"
  
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  A brilliant psychologist

  by voodoo lady in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been seeing a brilliant psychologist.

  he has been pivotal in drawing the parallels between my jw upbringing - specifically the hypocrisy i saw as a child - and the reason i've tolerated lies and inconsistencies in my most significant adult relationship.. i've seen one other psychologist in the past.

  she didn't get the issues surrounding the religion whatsoever, didn't regard that aspect of my backstory as relevant, and was of little help to me.. has anyone else seen a psychologist - whether for help with coping in the aftermath of leaving the religion, or for seemingly unrelated issues that actually turned out to be related?

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  LisaRose

  Any psychologist that doesn't think being in a controlling destructive cult is relevant to psychological issues should have their licence revoked.

  My daughter had substantial psychological issues as a teen, I think getting such help was pivotal in her getting better and going on to be a happy, well adjusted adult.

  Some therapists are better than others, if you don't feel you are getter better or don't click with the first one, don't give up, keep trying until you get the help you need.
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  The Neurochemistry of Flow States, with Steven Kotler

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahp2hkue8rq

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  I have heard that any hobby or work where you experience flow provides some of the same benefits as meditation.

  Powerful stuff that. It helps my ADD brain
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  The Neurochemistry of Flow States, with Steven Kotler

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahp2hkue8rq

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  Interesting stuff, I have heard of the concept of flow, it's very interesting. Many years ago I started a hobby, doing silk and dried flower arrangements. I distinctly remember the first time my subconscious took over and I found my hands doing something I had not consciously planned. It was an amazing feeling, like tapping into a different part of my brain. The other thing was that I found it changed how I did my regular job. I ended up coming up with a creative idea for a spreadsheet that automated a time consuming audit function, it won me an award and a trip to the Washington D.C.

  That was many years ago and my hobby eventually evolved into a business with antiques and creative re-use of vintage things and I still tap into my creativity using this concept.