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  A coordinated effort to bring up Watchtower pedophelia to the public's attention.

  by Village Idiot in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a statement that phizzy made on jonathan drake's thread on flyers gave me the following ideas.. we should make a flyer on the issue of the watchtower pedophilia issue written with the object of alerting the public about the jw door to door activity.

  phizzy suggested the title, "the paedophile at your door".. on that flyer should be the contact information of our most informed member on the subject who's willing to talk to the media.

  barbara anderson perhaps?.

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  LisaRose

  Yes, we should do both.
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  A coordinated effort to bring up Watchtower pedophelia to the public's attention.

  by Village Idiot in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a statement that phizzy made on jonathan drake's thread on flyers gave me the following ideas.. we should make a flyer on the issue of the watchtower pedophilia issue written with the object of alerting the public about the jw door to door activity.

  phizzy suggested the title, "the paedophile at your door".. on that flyer should be the contact information of our most informed member on the subject who's willing to talk to the media.

  barbara anderson perhaps?.

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  LisaRose

  Rather than flyers, why not prepare a Facebook type thing? That way you could have the possibility of it going viral. I think many people would be surprised that the man knocking on their door on Saturday could be a pedophile, known to his church to be attracted to children and not just allowed, but required to go to their house.
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  What to cook for the CO?

  by fulano in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the funniest i have seen since ages..... http://www.forevereating.com.

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  LisaRose

  Wow, I feel like I just went back in time. Do people still agonize over cooking for the CO? Nothing says "crazy cult member" like a cookbook for your religious higher ups.

  My Sugestions:

  Armageddon Appetizers

  Watchtower Waffles

  Overlapping Generations Goulash

  Smooching Butt S'mores

  Pedophile Pilaf

  Charlie Russell Chicken
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  Question for atheists and nonbelievers

  by pressman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i profess to teach the truth to you all and get you to all to think and believe.

  believing in christ through his words and not through evil religious cults, like hoj and jw, can and will save you.

  do you all realize that every time you are victorious and receive something of value through your hard work and sweat, it was our holy god who blessed you.

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  LisaRose

  would you be entitled to accept the lord and obey him if you can have the satisfaction of not really agreeing with him but worshipping him because it is the right thing to do?

  No one has answered your question because it doesn't make any sense. Despite what you think, I didn't stop believing in God because I didn't want to believe him, I actually wanted there to be a god, but I can't believe in something just because it's comforting, or makes me feel better or it's what my parents believed. I even attended church for a while, hoping that some level of faith would return. It didn't. I know what I know. The evidence is overwhelming to me.

  I see no evidence of his existence and quite a lot that indicates he doesn't exist. It's like someone demanding you believe in the Easter Bunny. Imagine your question as if it was from an Easter Bunny true believer.

  would you be entitled to accept the Easter Bunny and obey him if you can have the satisfaction of not really agreeing with him but worshipping him because it is the right thing to do?

  How would you answer that question? You couldn't, because you find the idea of the Easter Bunny to be ridiculous, a children's fable. Even if the special bunny believer said he had some magnificent, secret knowledge or experience that proves to him Bunny exists, you wouldn't believe, it's just not remotely possible. That is exactly how I feel about your claims.

  I am glad you are happy in your faith, but I don't understand why you can't conceive of someone simply looking at the evidence and finding it lacking. Frankly, it makes you seem a little odd. I think you mean well, if you aren't pranking us, but you are barking up the wrong tree here.

  
  
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  What bad habits have you picked up since leaving the Borg.

  by James Mixon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went back to smoking and gambling but the good habits out weigh.

  the bad ones, like lying to people.

  is't fraud against the law, the practice.

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  LisaRose

  Nothing that any normal person would consider bad. Holidays, voting, volunteering, sleeping in on Sunday.

  Most people would think I was pretty boring, but to the Witnesses I am a total degenerate.
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  Having my stitches out....

  by Louise in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  and i'm a little scared.. yes they are ready to come out.

  my thumb pad is tingly and burning.

  the skin around the stitches is numb.. with the injury being so bad, it is going to take at least a year for my thumb to be 90% recovered.

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  LisaRose

  Ouch, that had to have hurt. When I was a baby I got three fingers caught on the inside of the door, it almost cut off the end of one of my fingers.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses ... Proclaimers of "soon, very soon" since 1879

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the first edition of the watchtower magazine, july 1879, made the following comment on page 5 regarding how "soon" the end of this system will come:.

  exactly 136 years later the latest edition of the watchtower magazine, july 2015, (paragraph 3) made the following comment on page 15 regarding how "soon" the end of this system will come:.

  jehovah's witnesses ... proclaimers of "soon, very soon" since 1879.. .

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  LisaRose

  
  

  From Jwfacts, some of the dates that were erroneously predicted

  ....we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished near the end of A.D. 1915.
  

  1918 ed. We anticipate that the "earthquake" will occur early in 1918, and that the "fire" will come in the fall of 1920.

  The Seventh-days before the Deluge may represent seven years, from 1914 to 1921, in the midst of which "week of years' the last members of the Messiah pass beyond the veil.

  most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon."Watchtower 1941 Sep 15 p.288

  1980 ....if the wicked system of this world survived until the turn of the century, which is highly improbable

  "Some of that "generation" could survive until the end of the century. But there are many indications that "the end" is much closer than that!" Watchtower1984 Mar 1 pp.18-19Shortly, within our twentieth century
  

  "He was laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century". Watchtower1989 Jan 1 p.12.
  

  this very time

  2003 We are certainly in "the time of the end."
  
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  Question for atheists and nonbelievers

  by pressman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i profess to teach the truth to you all and get you to all to think and believe.

  believing in christ through his words and not through evil religious cults, like hoj and jw, can and will save you.

  do you all realize that every time you are victorious and receive something of value through your hard work and sweat, it was our holy god who blessed you.

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  LisaRose

  I profess to teach the truth to you all and get you to to think and believe.

  How condescending of you to presume to decide what truth is. You have a faith, good for you, but it is simply your belief, your truth, not mine. I wanted to believe in God, but I have looked at the evidence and find it wanting.

  All you have for evidence is a feeling and your proof is a two thousand year old book that describes a jealous, angry God who approved of slavery, rape and stoning people. So, no thank you.
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  Setback

  by EdenOne in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i saw this coming since my mother-in-law's funeral .... the congregation's "love-bombing" over my wife had its impact.

  i watched her drawing closer and closer to her friends in the congregation.

  then she decided she would attend the memorial.

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  LisaRose

  This is very sad. Try not to take it personally, it's just shows the power of cult mind control. She obviously knows on some level you are right, but that is being overridden by fear: Fear of dying at Armageddon, fear of the elders, fear of loss of relationships. If I were you I would back away from trying to convince her of anything, it obviously will just makes her more determined.

  Try just letting her be for now, but be very loving. She had her own issues with the religion before, perhaps if you back off her more natural personality will come back.
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  How do stop myself getting too Bitter?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you know, i always maintained that during this fading process, and while learning ttatt, i would not let myself get "bitter twisted and angry".... but, in all honesty, if i examine myself, i have become quite bitter toward the org, toward the false friends and the gb.. i have become angry as i see the extent of damage i feel being raised in "the truth" has done.... i feel hurt towards the lost opportunities in life etc.... how do i not allow myself to get too swallowed up by such bitterness?.

  i have always been a very happy, positive, selfless person.

  i can put people at ease, i am someone people feel comfortable chatting to.

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  LisaRose

  It's natural to feel bitter under the circumstances, but your goal should be to work through that and eventually put it behind you. It takes as long as it takes. If you are naturally a happy person you will probably be fine, but If you find it is preventing you from enjoying your life then it's time to get professional help.

  I also highly recommend meditation, It has, been life changing for me.