Posts by LisaRose

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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

by Deltawave in

there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

LisaRose

I have been ridiculed for saying that I still feel spiritual even though I don't believe in God, but I have been researching and their are other people who feel as I do. Of course you could argue all day about the definition of spirituality, but that is the closest I can come to describing what I feel.

For me, being spiritual means that I spend time every day in meditation and self reflection. I feel connected to other people and with nature. I am happiest when my outward actions match my inner values and I am always seeking balance and peace in my life. I feel that material things are less important than people. Like anyone else I have had my share of life's ups and downs, but I work very hard at keeping an optimistic attitude.

I would never ridicule someone for expressing a belief in God, as I see no point to it. I don't think every one is ready to give up belief in a diety and I do think religion is helpful to some people. Of course I am against any religion that teaches hate.

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Hello, just introducing myself

by Miss Behaving in

jw
friends

i've just signed up two days ago, but i've been lurking for about a year and a half.

here's my story if you're interested:.

my parents converted when they were in their first semester of college.

LisaRose

What a great first post. It has been my experience that the young ones that are very spiritually minded and idealistic and who really study the religion are more likely later to eventually become disillusioned and leave. Your search for knowledge would have always eventually led you to the real truth, that this religion is a sham.

I am sorry you were treated so poorly by your family and the religion, but your experience gives me hope because it seems that more and more people are waking up and leaving. Welcome to the forum!

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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

by Deltawave in

there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

LisaRose

Delta wave, I also practice meditation and it has nothing to do with BK or any religion. I always recommend it to ex Jehovah's Witnesses as many of them are dealing with the stress of shunning and the effects of being in a high control religion and meditation is good for dealing with stress and negative emotions.

Unfortunately, manyJWs are afraid to meditate as the Watchtower has emphasized it's use in religious practice. I don't know what they teach currently, but they even used to teach that it could lead to demonic attack, which is ludicrous. I am glad you aren't buying into that and I welcome you to the forum.

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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

by Deltawave in

there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

LisaRose

cappytan12 minutes agoLisaRose: I could be wrong, but I believe the BK method of meditation is quite different than "mindfulness" meditation commonly practiced by buddhists and some secularists.

Interesting, I will check that out, not that I am interested in BK, I hate it, as I do all cults, I am just curious.

Deltawave, we have had a lot of posters from the BK cult come here to post, and often they post things similar to you and are deceitful about their relationship to the cult. Unfortunately some people get out of a cult like the Jehovah's Witnesses only to fall prey to an even more destructive cult like BK. Attempting to spread their beliefs will not be tolerated here.

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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

by Deltawave in

there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

LisaRose

Viviane, your statement certainly did make it sound like you have a problem with meditation. If you don't, then there is nothing to discuss.

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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

by Deltawave in

there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

LisaRose

Viviane I'll be happy to answer that as soon as anyone can point out where I said anything was wrong with it.

You accused deltawave of "promoting meditation and the teachings of BK." Why would you say that if you don't have a problem with meditation?

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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

by Deltawave in

there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

LisaRose

So what is wrong with the practice of meditation Viviane?

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G Losch: child baptised at 5, reg pioneer since!

by fifth.column in

at the end of april, there was a zone visit in france, with tv broadcast in all kh.. g. losch told he received a letter from a girl, 10 years old, baptised at 5, reg pioneer since 4 years !

what a fine example, he said....... let s imagine the faces of the parents in the kh!

i was happy to see i was not the only one to find it crazy.. if you have a child, you know how mature he is at 5. how can a child preach 2.5hours/day after 7hours of school and homework to do??

LisaRose

But he didn't tell the rest of the story. Baptized by five, then pioneered, disfellowshipped by 16.

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Mother's day according to Joseph Rutherford

by opusdei1972 in

this is what the second president of the watchtower society, the channel of god appointed in 1919, wrote about the mother's day:.

satan would turn the people away from this beautiful symbol, and therefore from god, and cause them to disregard the word of the lord.

this he does in a very subtle way by organizing what in england and in america, the chief countries of christendom, is called "mother's day".

LisaRose

What else can you expect from a religion that hates women? Despite the fact there are more women in the organization and they do the majority of the preaching work they are really barely tolerated. They are told to be submissive, to tolerate abuse and are not allowed any role in the congregation other than field service. Any baptized brother, even a child of six, is considered better than any sister, no matter how responsible, spiritually inclined, intelligent or talented.

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Did You Feel Bad For the JW Dishwasher-Cook Who Quit His Job (May JW Broadcasting)To Avoid Attending Later Meetings? He Pioneered on Welfare or Unemployment!

by RoyalFlushPhil in

did you watch the story about the jw who was working as a burger boy at some diner and his boss wanted him to work on sunday during the time of his meeting?

this faithful jw decided he could not attend a later meeting (6 pm sunday meeting) and soon quit his job(or got fired to attend his sunday meeting) so he could attend the sunday meeting he was assigned to.

i think he was on welfare because this story states he won't work on sunday morning because that's when his meeting is!

LisaRose

I wonder how many JWs watched that and thought how incredibly stupid it was to quit a job for that reason? Is his faith so weak that missing a meeting or two would cause him to lose it? Why couldn't he just start looking for employment that wouldn't conflict with the meetings? Not to mention the fact that he would have to be dishonest to collect either welfare or unemployment in that situation. It's beyond ridiculous that they would present this loser as an example to others.