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  Happy Memorial Day

  by Perry in

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  2. friends

  just wishing a happy memorial day to everyone!

  we had some friends over, barbecued and let the kids run around slap crazy playing cops and robbers and hide and go seek.

  we have so many freedoms that those under tyranny do not have.

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  LisaRose

  I had a wonderful weeknd, went to a bed and breakfast in Sutter Creek California, in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada mountains. This was the heart of the California gold country, but is becoming more known as wine country these days. We did some wine tasting and had a really nice time.
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  Could you ever really relax in a self-driving car?

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  i love science and technology and we are living in a golden age right now.

  the world has changed in so many incredible ways just in the time i've been alive.. my first car was a vauxhall viva.

  it was brilliant because it was my first car and represented freedom.

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  LisaRose

  Such involuntary application of the brakes could cause an accident if there is a car behind you going at high speed.

  This could just as easily happen with human drivers. You should never be following so close behind another driver that you can't stop if they should apply the breaks suddenly.

  So far in testing of self driving cars, there have been eleven accidents in 1.7 million miles, none due to the fault of the self driving cars. I like those odds.
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  Doing away with Calculating How Close we are to THE END

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower study edition, august 2015, "keep in expectation!

  " article:.

  paragraph 3: "after looking forward to the end of this system for what may seem to be a long time, however, some may wonder, do we still have sound reasons to keep in expectation?

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  LisaRose

  When I was bamboozled into joining this religion in 1969 all Jehovah WItnesses believed the end was coming in 1975 or very soon thereafter. If any one questioned this they were accused of being weak in faith.

  Despite the fact that this was a failed prediction, just like every other prediction they have made, they still pretend the end is eminent. They get away with it because memories are short, people are gullible and fear is useful in manipulating people. I believe many do not enjoy being in a doomsday cult, but they stay because "what if they are right" fear overcomes rational thought.
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  10th Anniversary

  by geevee in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just popped in to say hi and let you know that my wife and i have been "out" for 10 years!!!

  wow a whole decade without going to a meeting or out door to door.. no bolts of lightening, only a couple of visits in all that time by some petrified elders and a couple of newbie locals knocking on our door in all that time!.

  how wonderful!

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  LisaRose

  Congrats! But are you sure you didn't turn into a better, angry apostate complete with horns and tail?
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  Could you ever really relax in a self-driving car?

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  i love science and technology and we are living in a golden age right now.

  the world has changed in so many incredible ways just in the time i've been alive.. my first car was a vauxhall viva.

  it was brilliant because it was my first car and represented freedom.

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  LisaRose

  Sure, it can't be any worse than my husband's driving.
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  plagiarism in the bible- what I have learnt part one

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have recently been studying the myths and legends of other pre- jewish cultures.

  such as babylonian, egyptian and greek.

  these stories and beliefs are all pre dating the writing of the jewish torah and the new testament.

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  LisaRose

  Yeah, it's kind of deflating when you realize the bible, something you once believed was sacred and inspired by God, was just a collection of modern urban legends of the time.
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  Spirituality

  by Jonathan Drake in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you are a current practitioner of some religious faith i would appreciate it if you abstained from this thread entirely.

  im curious if anyone has had what could be discribed as a spiritual experience.

  i'm currently reading sam harris book waking up and it's very good so far.

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  LisaRose

  Well DJS, I don't agree with you, or as at least not 100%, but I would never push the dislike button because I don't agree with a poster.

  I always wondered why some religious people reported some communication with God, I never felt that, so I wondered why they felt that way. Now that I meditate I think they are just feeling an altered state of consciousness brought on by meditation, only they weren't trying to meditate, they were praying. Of course they felt what happened was from God, since they were praying at the time. But people in every religion feel this, so it proves nothing about any particular religion, or that God exists.
  

  I read an interesting article recently about an experiment. They had people live with out artificial light for several weeks. When it got dark they went to sleep or sat in the dark. Many people in the study started waking up after three or four hours. They then experienced an altered state, they felt very peaceful and aware and alive. Then they went back to sleep. Maybe this is what our ancestors experienced before artificial light became the norm and meditation and/or religion is just an attempt to get back what was lost. We know sleep is essential for good health, perhaps this altered state is just as essential.

  I don't know if spirituality can exist for those that don't believe in God, but I am interested in the concept and plan to do further study. Of course it's just a feeling, and of course feelings can mislead you, but I also think it sometimes important to pay attention to them.
  
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  Damned if they do, Damned if they don't

  by FusionTheism in

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  2. friends

  i see an attitude among some people here which is not very helpful.

  i can understand it, but still, it's not constructive or helpful.. if you condemn the society for not changing, but then you also condemn them when they do change in a positive way, what incentive or motive does that provide for the people at the society to ever want to change for the better?.

  also, what does that attitude look like to current witnesses who are having doubts?.

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  LisaRose

  I get what you are saying, but you have to understand that many people here have been hurt by this religion, and when I say hurt, I mean our lives were changed forever in a very negative way. We gave years to this religion, years we will never get back. We have lost our families and friends and we have been treated as "diseased apostates". Then we realized everything we believed was a lie. This religion lied about their history of failed date predictions, they covered up child sex abuse and they broke up families with their practice of shunning.

  What you see as changes for the better we see as phoney attempts to appear to improve, and only because they are losing members, and more importantly the money those people contributed. When this religion acknowledges that they covered up child sex abuse, when they admit their failed date predictions, when they stop treating women as second class citizens and when they stop breaking up families by their shunning, then we might have a discussion about improvements. Until then it's all just window dressing.
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  Brave high school student exposes abuse and corruption within Jehovahs witnesses

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdvt_gyq-ls&feature=youtu.be.

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  LisaRose

  What a brave young woman. When many people either leave in shame or stay and live a lie she and her mother stood up and faced down the evil.
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  help catagorize my wife: I truely believe she suffers from cognitive dissonance and other things this stupid cult causes.

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i find it hard sometimes to get a good idea has to how to communicate with my wife when it come to this stupid cult.. she is born in and stopped attending for many years and got baptized later in life.

  i truely believe she suffers from cognitive dissonance and other things this stupid cult causes.. here is a breakdown of what i gather to be where she is mentally.. * she calls the borg her faith.

  here are actions that she does that go against her thoughts:.

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  LisaRose

  Perhaps you can go to a counselor yourself. These are very difficult problems to tackle and there are no easy answers.

  Avoiding talking about sensitive subjects never really solves anything, the emotions are still there, they just get hidden, resentments build up over time and kill the marriage. I was married to a disfellowshipped person for 28 years, we didn't talk about anything either and we are now divorced. He never owned to the damage he did by doing whatever he wanted, not just with the religion but other things too.

  Your wife has a right to her feelings about this. Perhaps if you can find a way to let her feelings come out, she will feel better about the whole thing. She is suffering a loss, she has lost the marriage she thought she had. She needs to be allowed to grieve, only when she has done so can you both move on.

  Just my 2¢.