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  Latest JW.org Statistics Are Confusing & Lack Context

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  earlier this week a new post on this forum announced that the 2017 worldwide annual service report was available on jw.org.

  wow - that's earlier than the statistics for the 2016 service year which appeared in the 2017 yearbook last january!

  good effort, jw organization!

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  LisaRose

  There is a lot you can do to to obscure the truth while not technically reporting false information.

  Or as Mark Twain said, there are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics.
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  A Former Jehovah's Witness shares her me too story

  by LisaRose in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/16/a-former-jehovahs-witness-shares-her-metoo-story/.

  when i was 23 years old, i started dating a (jehovah’s) witness boy and we’d go out to some dance clubs.

  there was a night in particular where i had too much to drink.

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  LisaRose

  https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/16/a-former-jehovahs-witness-shares-her-metoo-story/

  
  When I was 23 years old, I started dating a (Jehovah’s) Witness boy and we’d go out to some dance clubs. There was a night in particular where I had too much to drink. Then the next thing I remember was waking up when I felt my hymen break. I just screamed because in that second I knew everything was over; it was done. I had had sex outside of marriage even though it wasn’t my fault and I was a woman, so any claim I made against him, it was going to be my fault. I was drunk.
  
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  Things You Still Agree With The JWs On

  by Fred Franztone in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  aside from obvious things that most people agree on, like theft being wrong and the importance of family, i can't think of a single thing i agree with the jws on, nothing that's specific to their religion anyway.

  do you have any?.

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  LisaRose

  Will not bare arms against my fellow man. They got that one right. Religions are like people no one is all bad or all good.

  So no sleeveless for you New Boy? I agree, especially at my age, you get that flappy part hanging down, not a good look.
  

  Bearing arms on the other hand, I don't have a problem with, the willingness of some to bear arms in defence of their country is actually what gives you the freedom not to bear arms.
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  Do You Feels That Your Life Was Ruined Because of Ypur JW Experience?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know that some are upset because of the time lost because of ever having been a witness.

  have you moved on as an ex jw or are you stil devastated because of your past jw lige?.

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  LisaRose

  I wouldn't say my life now is ruined, I have moved on and am happy, but I am not totally free of being negatively impacted by the experience either, I have limited contact with JW siblings, and I still have to work to keep some of the thinking out of my head.
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  Leah Remini to do episode on JW's

  by cobweb in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  saw this on reddit so this is a bit of a copy/paste jobie but i thought there would be people here excited about this as i am.

  i've enjoyed her show on scientology and seems like in season 3 she is branching out with jw's getting the first episode.

  https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/leah-remini-returning-to-ae-to-investigate-other-cult-like-religions/.

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  LisaRose

  That's excellent news. I haven't seen the entire series but I watched one episode and she did a great job exposing Scientology, she just let people tell their stories.
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  Is this life all there is?

  by Fisherman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what do you sincerely think?

  do you nurture any hope?.

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  LisaRose

  I believe this life is all there is, I see zero evidence of an afterlife of any kind. I will grow old and die, just like everyone else in the history of the earth. I have had a good life and hope to get a few more years out of it, I'm good.
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  My final topic

  by pomo6780 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have noted that the irritable part of me got the better of me when posting about j f rutherford.

  i acknowledge that a few on here have pointed out flaws in my reasoning and the way i reason.

  and i agree with them.

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  LisaRose

  Ohh, you are so clever, pretending to be one of us to learn all our secrets, we are so, so scared. Such a drama queen you are.

  It's an open forum, so big freaking deal, we are not an organized group so I can't imagine what you could do with the information. I guess you could expose individuals, shame on you if so, but that is always a possibility for cult members posting on an open forum.

  Don't let the screen door hit you in the butt on your way out.
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  How to make money in the good ol' U.S A.

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  russell & rutherfraud knew they were on to a winner when they started and then re-branded their cult business empire.

  businessmen first, charlatans second - nothing more, nothing less.

  i can't get my around such institutions being allowed to keep their finances secret.

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  LisaRose

  Yes, religion is the ultimate way to scam, zero accountability and tax free to boot.

  Although I don't think all religions are the same. I attended a church for a short while and was surprised that during Sunday services they gave everyone a copy of the church budget for the year, and I was just a visitor. Every penny was accounted for. Then they had a discussion and everyone was invited to discuss and vote on adjustments for the coming year. It was quite a change from my JW days.
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  Life after jw

  by Jrjw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi has anyone still kept searching for the truth after leaving wts?

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  LisaRose

  The truth about life and why we're here is what I mean by truth

  It was difficult at first for me, because the Watchtower belief system is so absolute, they, and only they have "The Truth", the answers are spelled out for you: just obey. It was painful to realize that they lied, because then what were the answers? It was scary and uncomfortable. I grieved the loss of a belief system.
  

  Being as I couldn't go backward I had just had to move forward and hope the answers came. It was difficult at first, but as time went on it got easier. I eventually realized that no one had all the answers and that's OK. If God exists and is good them I am sure he can read my heart and know I tried my best. I don't think anyone religion has all the answers, I have found a few that were much more welcoming and kind and that allow for individuality and freedom of thought and no doctrine, but ultimately I decided I am happy as I am, just being the best I can be.

  You may come to a completely different conclusion, but that is your spiritual journey to follow. Just take in one day at a time, it's a process.
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  Higher Education

  by Brian J in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just spent 8 hours in a 1 day elders school last weekend.

  clarification given: "moving forward any elder, ms, or pioneer who themselves or someone under their roof enrolls in higher education, may no longer qualify for privileges in the congregation.

  their qualifications will have to be reviewed by their boe.".

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  LisaRose

  One can trust God for salvation while still using their brain to take prudent steps to manage their finances and their life, it's not an either/or situation.

  I Timothy 5:8 Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.