..is there any?
bear in mind what jesus himself said: john 15:24 new international version (niv) 24 if i had not done among them the works no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin.
as it is, they have seen, and yet they have hated both me and my father..
Q: Why should I believe anything you say?
A: Because we are the Faithful and Discreet Slave.
Q: How do I know you are really the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
A: Because we said we are.
Q: Why should I believe you?
A: Because we are the Faithful and Discreet Slave.
... ad infinitum ...
seriously, half day in (already had an argument with the wife this morning about individuality in the organization in which she conceded that a lot of it is based on looks) and this is already getting on my nerves.
i'll post a rebuttal based on my annotations later in the week but one thing i got to get off my mind: saying the feminist movement (women going to work instead of staying home) and the diversity laws (allowing for homosexuality - but also religious freedom, racial discrimination etc.
) caused a lot of the problems in our world right from the stage.. there are less people here than last year - about 500 less..
There is nothing new under the sun :)
After recounting incidents of persecution in Ethiopia,the 1/1/95
issue of The Watchtower,page 6,para 8,said:
“Satan has failed to crack the integrity of such loyal brothers and sisters by direct frontal attack. So,what other crafty devices does he employ? Revelation 12:12 says of these last days:“Woe for the earth and for the sea,because the Devil has come down to you,having great anger,knowing he has a short period of time.”Having failed to annihilate God’s loyal people by persecutions,in his anger he attempts to massacre entire populations,no doubt with a view to destroying Jehovah’s people along with the rest. Thus so-called ethnic cleansing has been carried out in parts of the former Yugoslavia,and genocides have been attempted in Liberia,Burundi,and Rwanda.”
when i was growing up most of the jws around me were poor and lower middle class.
some were middle class, but very few were upper middle class.
only (maybe) about 1% were college educated.
Well educated and financially stable people were taken in by Bernie Madoff, too.
as i'm sure we all know, the society has lied repeatedly in the past about what they preached regarding 1914 in the run up to that year, claiming that what was preached was that jesus was to become king in that year and his presence was to begin then etc, when in fact they were preaching that all this had already happened in 1874 and that the end of the world would come in 1914.. .
but does anyone know if they have repeated this lie about what they supposedly preached recently?
when was the last time they claimed this?
1/15/93 Watchtower, page 5 in the article “Caught Away to Meet the Lord’-How?”:
The Watchtower has consistently presented evidence to honesthearted students of Bible prophecy that Jesus’ presence in heavenly Kingdom power began in 1914. Events since that year testify to Jesus’ invisible presence.
i have heard quite a bit about the july 15th watchtower magazine on this sie.
so i went and downloaded it and read several of the articles.. page 16 paragraph 6 states : "well, apostates are mentally diseased,and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings".
how horrible, they seem to know sooo much about menal health !.
Mentally Diseased, eh?
Doc Bob M.D.
here is a formal definition of what i consider myself to be, but it doesn't really define me, either:.
:muckrakers, name applied to american journalists, novelists, and critics who in the first decade of the 20th cent.
attempted to expose the abuses of business and the corruption in politics.
I've always liked the term "gadfly"
any opinion that you'd like to share regarding six screens?.
(i don't get the fascination, but rick has succeeded in making us know his site, hasn't he?
).
I haven't listened for a while, but is the "Drunken Popeye" guy you are talking about Richard Rawe?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxxsderj5aw.
That was the first time I was on that side of a judicial committee
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxxsderj5aw.
Rick, this former elder had no problem with it ;-)
PC, we weren't going for an Oscar on this one. :-)
It was just a little skit we threw together over lunch to present at the conference. It was not about having a great screenplay or about serious acting or cinematography; it was about having a bit of fun while poking fun at the WT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxxsderj5aw.
We put that little skit together over lunch the day we performed it at the Witnesses Now for Jesus conference. I can't speak for the others involved, but it was not my intent to trivialize anything. It was meant to show just how absurd the JW judicial system can be. I think that being able to poke fun at what we once viewed as sooooo serious can be part of the healing process.
