i don't think so.
i believe that if they decide to have it, there's nothing legallyspeaking, that you can do to thwart it.. what's your opinion??
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I and several other people have used a letter I wrote several years ago. The only time I know of where it did not halt the judicial action is when the person had already met with the elders.
http://www.docbob.org/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=6
If that doesn't work, go to www.docbob.org and go to "Letter 2". I sent Letter 2 after I was invited to appear to face charges of apostacy when I sent Letter 1
just wanted to share this with fellow jwd members.
i went to the norco circut assembly and these are the recent $ numbers quoted ... .
as of 4/14/2007 (the first of two circut assemblies) we had $10,260,22 (a surplus) .
so, lemme get this straight....
this convention was held at an assembly hall that is owned by the borg and therefore paid for by the contributions of the r&f as well as built by their volunteer labour......
and they are being asked to cough up $16K to use it for 2 days?? how much IS a case of toilet paper in sunny cali anyway?
unbelievable!
When I worked in the finance section at our circuit assemblies in Maine, it was cheaper for us to rent the Cumberland County Civic Center than it was to pay the $3.75 per publisher per day that they charged at the time for the Natick Assembly Hall
there's a website listing most if not all of the jw/russellite offshoots; there's quite a few of them., anyone have the link?.
thanks!.
chappy;.
i would like to make it so that i can log on to any computer in the house from my computer.
i've got my wireless system hooked up; so everyone can use the linksys.
i, also, have them with the regular wires (usb ports).
We are mostly wireless. We have two desktops wired to the wireless router along with the cable modem. We have two wireless laptops and a wireless printer.
as per the subject, i am looking for quick references on just how many deaths actuallyh occured during wwii???????
pls need info for book study!!
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The 635 figure is the WTS own number. Here is their accounting of the situation from the 1974 Yearbook, p. 212:
During Hitler’s rule 1,687 of them had lost their jobs, 284 their businesses, 735 their homes and 457 were not allowed to carry on their trade. In 129 cases their property had been confiscated, 826 pensioners had been refused their pensions and 329 others had suffered other personal loss. There were 860 children who had been taken away from their parents. In 30 cases marriages had been dissolved due to pressure by political officials, and in 108 cases divorces had been granted when requested by mates opposed to the truth. A total of 6,019 had been arrested, several two, three or even more times, so that, all together, 8,917 arrests were registered. All together they had been sentenced to serve 13,924 years and two months in prison, two and a quarter times as long as the period since Adam’s creation. A total of 2,000 brothers and sisters had been put into concentration camps, where they had spent 8,078 years and six months, an average of four years. A total of 635 had died in prison, 253 had been sentenced to death and 203 of these had actually been executed
These same figures were also included in The Watcthtower, 2/1/1976, p. 82.
Given the WTS penchant for accounting, I would think these are the real numbers. The higher numbers quoted from people like Christine King and others made for better press later. The WTS has built a whole little industry around their holocaust martyrs.
this is the third elder that tells me that the body of elders will recommend me as an elder in the next visit of the co.. what do you think i should do?
some facts:.
i am still 'in' because of my family.i am ms.i am doing 10+ fake hours (well, some months it is fake), so they see my "spiritual" progress.-ootb.
RUN FORREST RUN !!!
Seriously, as one who has been there, I would recommend against it.
I havent read all of the other posts on this subject (I'm at work at the moment), so some of this may cover ground that already been covered.
If you have any illusions about doing something significant to change the org for the better being an elder - forget it. The further up in any org you are, the more enslaved to it you are. Knowing what you do, think about what you would be expected to teach and how much of it you could teach with a clear conscience. Could you really serve on a judicial committee? What about if someone else who has 'seen behind the curtain' came before the committee you were on - how would you deal with them?
Also, when the recommendation comes back from HQ, before the service meeting when they make the announcement, they would tell the guy that he had been recommended and approved and then ask if there were reason why they should not announce you as an elder. Could you honestly answer that there was no reason they should not?
By the time I stepped down from being an elder, there was little left from the WT playbook that I could teach, I had not served on a judicial committee for a year and I felt totally disgusted every time I set foot in the hall - disgusted with both the org and myself for what we both had become. It was definitely time to part company with the org.
If you intend to hang in and just do what you need to do for your family's sake, being an elder is a step in the wrong direction.
it just started to snow here at around noon.
it's right at 32 deg so it should stick good.. i snagged some video as soon as the flakes started flying.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1rysatcvwc.
monday we are supposed to get a nasty windstorm..
We had a dusting Wednesday and again last night at our timeshare in North Conway NH. Nothing south of Ossipee on the way back home to Kittery MEl.
i like elmore james, robert johnson, dave hole, blind willie johnson, george thoroughgood....
"Homage" by Ed Gerhard - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CqINDrS-dY
Way back, we had a few old folks who used to refer to television as "the Devil's eyeball"
As I was typing this the eye of Sauron came to mind :)
my name is not really nicolaou - i just chose it as an alias like so many of us do.
thing is, people have been calling me nic' online for almost nine years now so who am i to say that nic' is not real.. if i'm ever disfellowshipped i know that one of the first things i'll do is 'come out' on jwd and tell you all who i really am - will that mean that i'm killing 'nic'?
should we all resist getting attached to our usernames and avatars?.
I've been Doc Bob for about a dozen years now. My real first name is Bob. When I meet people at exJW Meetups or at Witnesses Now for Jesus, I am called Doc more often than Bob. That's okay.
