I just got home. Took my son, a friend, and the women I have been faithfully with for two years, a worldly gal, mother of my child and the only person I have ever had sex with (which was one of the reasons for my being dis-fellowshipped now for almost two and a half years) to the memorial tonight. Anyway I was trying to make the best of it and was actually surprised when my family aka mom and brother boldly shook my hand afterwards...feeling pretty good about that, but still uncomfortable because I had to hang around everyone I have every know as they did there best to pretend not to notice me as they had there way with my cute as fuck son whom I dressed up in a little suit and tie. Anyway since I was not going to leave my soon to be wife, son and religious friend behind I stuck around afterward and was talking to my buddy who was apparently one of the only ones there that could see me, (I hate it when they make you feel like a ghost..shunning sucks!!)when we where approached by someone I had never seen before she said she was new to the Hall and asked our names...since I did not feel comfortable with saying "listen here! I am dis-fellowshipped take that nice smiling face of yours elsewhere!" I told her my name and my non-witness friend told her his and there was some chit chat...when all of a sudden a witness woman I have know all of my life came up to the lady and whispered into her ear what must have been "he is dis-fellowshipped, move along." because in mid sentence she stopped talking to us instantly looked at my friend and said it was nice meeting you and walked off. This pissed my off so bad, I had to say it offended me to my mother a few moments later while gathering up my sons things and she in front of me and my girlfriend defended the lady's actions and walked away...this was a bad "witnesses" for my girlfriend it seems because it really upset her and turned her even more against the JW's! (but that's not hard to do, there are allot of things to hate about the group) So theres my night for you. Good night and God bless. Corey
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More on the Memorial...
by Core88 ini just got home.
took my son, a friend, and the women i have been faithfully with for two years, a worldly gal, mother of my child and the only person i have ever had sex with (which was one of the reasons for my being dis-fellowshipped now for almost two and a half years) to the memorial tonight.
anyway i was trying to make the best of it and was actually surprised when my family aka mom and brother boldly shook my hand afterwards...feeling pretty good about that, but still uncomfortable because i had to hang around everyone i have every know as they did there best to pretend not to notice me as they had there way with my cute as fuck son whom i dressed up in a little suit and tie.
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Cold Reading and the supernatural
by Dogpatch ini just finished doing a consultation with a woman who is still struggling with guilt and manipulation left over from the watchtower, and i introduced her to the concept of cold reading.
i think its good for people to understand this subject, something very important in exit-counseling, when people feel that a group or leader is right because they know so much that seems otherwise unknowable.
i thought i would share this article for some of you who aren't familiar with the subject.randy.
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Good info Randy, thanks again. Corey
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This Greber 'coverup' is disgusting, Isn't it?
by AK - Jeff ini had proven to myself, with help from ray franz and others, that the 'truth' was not the 'truth' about three years back - so in most cases i have paid little attention to further proof.
once proven, always proven, right?.
then this week, i began to do a little research into the greber thing - i typed in greber watchtower to my google seach.. 465 hits - and started to read a few of the websites.
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Lady Liberty, I have a thing or two to say about the NWT quote you used, in the table of who, topic I posted, your thoughts? " Post 1530 of 1564 since 17-Mar-06 Jedi Master Dear AK-Jeff, I know your anger!! I felt the same way!! This scripture clearly comes to mind in realizing what they have done: 1 Corinthians 10:21 21 YOU cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of demons; YOU cannot be partaking of "the table of Jehovah" and the table of demons. Sincerely, Lady Liberty" Corey
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Cheap!
by Core88 inthis forum is so popular that i thought i would post here and say man i would love some feedback and peoples thought on my table of who?
topic in the other room.
=-) corey ps.
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THis forum is so popular that I thought I would post here and say man I would love some feedback and peoples thought on my Table of who? topic in the other room. =-) Corey PS. it makes me feel somewhat stronger knowing I know I mean really know that the wtbts made a mistake on something! Something I just noticed on my own! Thanks
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Have you noticed?
by SPAZnik inlately my family member that is still undecided about staying out or going back keeps mentioning this big push that the jws keep emphasising that "we are really really really near the end.
this is the very very very end.
we are deep deep deep into the end.
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The reason you may be hearing that the end is "very very very, near." is because it is, at least for the elderly men in charge of sending out that shit. And Handsom Dan, I grew up hearing how my mom and dad now in there late 60's have both been in a mental institution and had shock treatments. And now as of last week my sister tryed to kill herself with an overdose of you sleeping pills and anti-depressent medication!!! She is now in a metal hospital. As for me I have had allot of stress since leaving and have noticed different personality's in my self. So yes the mental state of many in the JW org, or at least with the more devout, is not good! Pray for that to change, I know I do. Corey
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Have you noticed?
by SPAZnik inlately my family member that is still undecided about staying out or going back keeps mentioning this big push that the jws keep emphasising that "we are really really really near the end.
this is the very very very end.
we are deep deep deep into the end.
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The reason you may be hearing that the end is "very very very, near." is because it is, at least for the elderly men in charge of sending out that shit. And Handsom Dan, I grew up hearing how my mom and dad now in there late 60's have both been in a mental institution and had shock treatments. And now as of last week my sister tryed to kill herself with an overdose of you sleeping pills and anti-depressent medication!!! She is now in a metal hospital. As for me I have had allot of stress since leaving and have noticed different personality's in my self. So yes the mental state of many in the JW org, or at least with the more devout, is not good! Pray for that to change, I know I do. Corey
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How did I conclude it was not the 'truth'?
by jgnat ina new board member asked me this.
i asked if it would be all right to publish my reply.
the question, in full, is, .
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My parents still give me watchtowers and awakes from time to time...wanting me to look at them. And after awhile, I look at the covers and think to myself, "you know that sounds kind of interesting and my parents do want what's best for me, and believe these mags. will help.". And so I will pick one up, like a newer one on the anti-christ, and start to read it, then I'll get so sick of it after about page two, because all of a sudden the well phrased and acturate material is then replaced with bunk. (aparently the only non-antichrist group is the JW's) ANd no big suprise either. I mean I grew up in this I know the teachings and it's just that I guess because even when I was a MS and regular pioneer for 2 yrs, I never read the mags. And it just strikes me how they come across to my more free and open mind. =-) Nice post. Corey
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A Big Miracle - God is Love
by David ben Jesse ina big miracle
i composed an instrumental song "god is love" and sent it as an mp3-file via email to a christian music publisher.
every time the song was cut in half, the rest was missing.
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This is the last attention I give David. Dude, you are a joke. Corey
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A Big Miracle - God is Love
by David ben Jesse ina big miracle
i composed an instrumental song "god is love" and sent it as an mp3-file via email to a christian music publisher.
every time the song was cut in half, the rest was missing.
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I have enjoyed this allot, this is more cooler than the mavel comics universe, does that mean that spider-man is in heaven, and that heavens not real or that I am not real and I am spider-man in the negative universes head of the anti-me? Corey
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Table of who???
by Core88 inhi everyone here is something i think is wrongly translated in the nw bible, and it bothers me.
you cannot be drinking the cup of jehovah and the cup of demons; you cannot be partaking of the table of jehovah and the table of demons.1 cor.
10:21, nw.
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I am intrested in your view, on the Trinity. I growing up a JW have never considered it as true and yet I get a kind of peace of mind when I think of Jesus being God. And I find it hard to think of anyone else being worthy of this "worshipful reverence" then the ONE GOD alone. For Jesus himself proclaimed this to the Devil at Matthew 4:10 "Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve." Moreover whom do you then personly beleive Jesus to be, hopfull not Micheal the Archangel, which after taking a look into that I don't see how that matches up with the Bible however that is what JW's believe and I guess what I believed for so long...although now that I think about it I don't think that I ever was consciencely convinced of that. Umm? But anyway I hope I am not coming across as a know it all because that's just it, I don't! ANd that's a hard thing to say after living life KNOWING, I had the "TRUTH whole TRUTH and nothing but the TRUTH"....so help me GOD! Personaly I don't know if Jesus is God or the first Angel or a man or some mix of all three or none of those things at all. However I do think that the Trinity makes more sence then I thought it did, and that goes for some of the arguments I have heard that support it. (SOME not ALL) Anyway thanks for the feedback, I enjoy these free and open dicussions on the board! Corey