The usual rhetoric does not fly with those wanting to know the truth. Youre statement is not in line with the WT policy. That is the policy that critics of JWs wish it to be. But it is not. Read the essay above and then provide the proof that contradicts the policy not the usual rhetoric.
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Does the Policy of the Watchtower Create a Safe Haven for Child Molesters?
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Who Really Is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
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Great news. The WTS did not commit spiritual prostitution with UN.
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Just spreading the truth.
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Does the Policy of the Watchtower Create a Safe Haven for Child Molesters?
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But isn't it true that everyone in the congregation is instructed to keep silent including the elders and not let anyone else know that a person in the congregation is a former molester? Wouldn't a person be disfellowshipped or reproved for gossip or slander?This is another common apostate falacy put forth to mislead others. A 1997 letter to body of elders states:
Therefore, the elders should not make disparaging comments regarding a Christian' s decision to obtain professional help. It is also a personal decision if the alleged victim chooses to report such accusations to the secular authorities. Elders should encourage the sufferer to use discretion if that one chooses to confide in a mature friend.
If there is some valid reason to suspect that the alleged perpetrator is still abusing children, a warning may have to be given. The congregation elders can help in such a case. -
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If you know a religion with a better policy then show us.
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child abuse policy of other religions
Who has a better policy?"Below is just a sampling of the steps numerous religious institutions have taken to protect children from being abused. By clicking on the links provided any observer can see that the churches have gone to great lengths to openly discuss abuse issues and establish policies to prevent abuses from taking place.
Interestingly, by Googling each church along with "child abuse policy," or any similar phrase, the results are readily forthcoming. However, try Googling the Watchtower's child abuse policy and see what your search results turn up. For example, here is a link to a well defined child abuse policy for a Methodist church that requires criminal background checks for day care workers etc.
http://www.ltumc.org/pages/safetypolicy2.html Here is a link to a Methodist conference that discusses their child protection policies. They seem to have gone to great lengths to ensure that children are not abused.
http://www.txcumc.org/SafeSanctuaries/SafeHome.htm The Baptist church also has a well-defined policy that is aimed at preventing abuse.
http://www.baptist-atlantic.ca/articles/abusepolicy.htm The American Baptist Church has a similar detailed screening policy that is aimed at preventing abuse.
http://www.nationalministries.org/children/policy.cfm The Lutheran Church has a similar child abuse policy
http://www.synodresourcecenter.org/admin/personnel/background_checks/0001/abuse.html Here are the minutes of a Presbyterian elders meeting that lays out a very comprehensive child abuse policy.
http://www.opmh.org/sessionminutes/session040823.htm The Anglican Church in Ontario has a clearly defined policy that informs parishioners to call the police.
http://www.ottawa.anglican.ca/abuse.shtml Please take note of the Anglican policy that states: WHAT DO I DO IF THE VICTIM IS A CHILD? The protection of children is a matter of fundamental concern. In Ontario all professionals are bound by law to report suspected child abuse to the Children's Aid Society. The professional's duty to report overrides the privilege of confidentiality."
Those comments above in italics are the words of one of the biggest critics of the child abuse policy of the WTS. When looking at each link he provides what do we reallly find? Here is the truth about each one of them.
Methodist Policy: This policy and its provisions shall apply to all persons including all paid and unpaid leaders, whether lay or clergy who have any direct or indirect contact with children and youth who participate in any activities or events sponsored by the Texas Conference.
Only protects children against ones in charge. Not against Joe Methodist the child molester.
Baptists policy: Policy for Child Abuse Prevention All persons desiring to work with children/youth through any ministry (current or future) of this church, must first meet the following qualifications.
Does not protect child against Joe Baptist the child molester.
American Baptist Policy: the Board of Educational Ministries adopted a recommended policy for churches and regions to consider as they recruit and screen volunteers and staff who work with children, youth, and/or other vulnerable populations.
Does not protect children against Joe American Baptist the child molester.
Lutheran policy: it is prompted by awareness of problems in other churches that have allowed for the abuse of children by paid and unpaid child and youth workers in the church,
Does not protect child against Joe Lutheran the child molester.
Presbyterian policy: Employees and volunteers who undertake the special responsibility of working with the children of OPMH shall not violate the trust of the responsibility by engaging in acts of sexual misconduct.
Does not protect children against Joe Presbyterian the child molester.
Anglican Church Policy: In the Church, where people entrust their lives and their spiritual wellbeing to clergy and other employees and volunteers, the issues of sexual exploitation and harassment are of great importance. Church leaders are invested with the confidence of those who come to them. Sexual contact is a gross misuse of that power and a massive breach of a sacred trust that takes advantage of another's vulnerability
Does not protect the children against Joe Anglican the child molester.
You will note that in every link provided the policy is concerning those in charge of youths, the clergy, employees, volunteers, youth leaders and counselors. There is no policy to protect children against members of the church or their own parents. Their only concern seems to be to make sure that no leaders are accused of child molesting so that lawsuits may be avoided. They have no concern for protecting children from child abusers who are simply members of the church. They seem to not even have a policy for this. How much finer the policy of JWs to DF practicing child molesters and shun them. -
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And the point about 'querying' brothers means that there is no need to go around and ask every brother if they have ever molested a child. If it is not known then its not known. If it is known then it is known. Seems pretty silly to go around asking people if they were ever a child molester.
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Those will not know about it if molestor has received private reproof and it has not been reported to the authorities.
This statement is incorrect. Even child molesters who are privately reproved are kept up with. If they change congregations a letter is sent to the elders of the new congregation and is also sent to the Society. A former molester known to be such by the elders is a known child molester since the elders are part of the congregation. I know many want it to be that JWs child molest policy is bad but it is the best of all religions.
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For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE
by Swamboozled injust got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.
i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!
http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm
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http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/607/default.html
Here is a better site that proves 607 beyond a doubt. The one you post was the beginnings of the essay before it was completed. NO ONE has ever been able to come up with an explanation, especially for the 40 year desolation of Egypt.