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Good one, mate!
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jwmatch.com
by obiefernandez ini am surprised that there hasn't been a discussion here (not that i can find anyway) about jwmatch.com.
not only are they self-proclaimed, "the world's largest witnesses online community!
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Taliban answering machine message :-))
by Dogpatch inphone message for taliban (humor).
rose's cantina.
http://www.freeminds.org/aftrhour/aftrhour.htm
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Taliban answering machine message :-))
by Dogpatch inphone message for taliban (humor).
rose's cantina.
http://www.freeminds.org/aftrhour/aftrhour.htm
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Oct. 24th United Nations Day!
by Dogpatch inoctober 24th is united nations day!.
how should we celebrate?.
http://www.freeminds.org/buss/okies.htm.
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October 24th is United Nations Day!
How should we celebrate?http://www.freeminds.org/buss/okies.htm
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Millenarian History(Neo-ChristianEschatology)
by sf in< http://www.todd.seidel.com/millmvmt.htm.
a portion about half way down page:.
william miller (1783-1849) has the dubious honor of being the founder of the most popular end-time movement in american history.
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Christmas&Thanksgiving-Are you celebrating?
by Vitameatavegamin inhi friends;.
just wondering about this subject of holidays again.
i really miss christmas but don't have enough nerve to celebrate it.
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Here is a file that might help some:
http://www.freeminds.org/doctrine/holidays.htmHolidays
by Randall WattersBiblical Overview
There are a number of religious groups claiming to be Christian that deny the celebration of holidays to their members, including Christmas, Easter, birthdays, Mother's Day, etc. This is especially the case with Jehovah's Witnesses. While there are some Witnesses who celebrate these holidays secretly for fear of being caught, most take pride in this prohibition. Parents are willing to allow their children to suffer much peer pressure and isolation, and are perfectly willing to isolate themselves from their families during holiday times, even taking the opportunity to go door-to-door during these seasons of celebration. What are the reasons given for this stand against holidays? Is it wrong to celebrate holidays?Let's consider the reasons given by the Watchtower for their stand. They give three basic reasons:
1. Holidays usually have a pagan, non-Christian origin and are often accompanied by licentious practices, such as drunkenness, fornication, etc. (Make Sure of All Things, p. 241)
2. Holidays are not mentioned in the Bible except under negative circumstances, such as birthday parties where someone was killed. Also, we are not commanded to celebrate anything but the Lord's Evening Meal (Lord's Supper). (ibid., p. 235, 236)
3. Holidays idolize something or someone other than God, and the Bible says to "Flee from idolatry" and "We are no part of the world." (ibid., p. 241, 242)
Additionally, as in the case of Christmas, a further argument is set forth, that Christ was not born on Dec. 25, so why celebrate it on a date that coincides with the winter solstice, which was celebrated in the past by sun worshipers? (ibid., p. 237)
Before considering these objections, let's review some principles first that both JWs and Christians agree upon as basic and not open to argumentation. Then we will examine the INTERPRETATION of these principles with a view to revealing the inconsistency of the WT and their failure to understand Christianity.
The Bible is plain in saying that:
* We are to be "no part of the world" (John 17:16).
* We should "abstain from the appearance of evil" (1 Thes. 5:22).
* We should "quit sharing in the unfruitful deeds of the darkness" (Eph. 5:11; Rom. 13:12).
* There is "no fellowship between light and darkness" (2 Cor. 6:14).
* We should separate ourselves from idolatry (2 Cor. 6:17).
All who claim to be Christian should indeed believe and live by the above. The controversies begin when these principles are interpreted into everyday life. Furthermore, the whole approach of making rules in this regard must be questioned. Since a consideration of the above passages would require a book in itself, the discussion will be limited to the three main WT objections.
Refuting Jehovah's Witnesses
OBJECTION #1: Holidays usually have a pagan, non-Christian origin and are often accompanied by licentious practices, such as drunkenness, fornication, etc.It is true that many holidays have their origins in idolatry or pagan practices. It is also true that other things we utilize have their origin in paganism, such as our calendar (days of the week and months are named after pagan gods). The celebration of wedding anniversaries and the giving of rings in marriage also has pagan roots. Symbols used in the modern business world, and artwork on stationary, wallpaper, etc. are often borrowed from pagan sources. Are we to separate ourselves into some kind of monastery or private community where all vestiges of paganism have been carefully screened from our presence?
Such an attitude calls to mind the Pharisees, who spent long hours discussing what was "clean" and "unclean," and making rules for the people to follow, as if such rules would make them clean. Anyone who takes the time to examine their traditions (such as later contained in their Talmud) will note how absurd it is to search out every little detail of what is "right" or "wrong." On the other hand, if we really believe that God intended us to scrupulously observe these matters (as if failure to do so would damn us), then like the Pharisees, we should engage in a continual screening of all traces of paganism from our lives. To stop short of eliminating any traces of it would be hypocritical, would it not?
Not so, sayeth the Watchtower. They claim to have a balance in this matter of what is pagan and what isn't. Note these statements from a 1976 Awake! article regarding the use of pagan symbols, such as the heart, the swastika, and the cross:
What should be a Christian's attitude toward shapes and designs that have at some time or place been connected with false religion? . . .
. . . just because idol worshipers at some time or place might use a certain design, that does not automatically mean that true worshipers must always shun it. For instance, figures of palm trees, pomegranates and bulls were incorporated in the design of Jehovah's temple in Jerusalem. The fact that other religions might take these natural things that God created and use them as symbols in idol worship did not make it wrong for true worshipers to use them decoratively. Anyone visiting the temple could tell that God's people were not worshiping these decorations or venerating them as sacred symbols.
So the Christian needs to be primarily concerned about what? Not what a certain symbol or design possibly meant thousands of years ago or how it might be thought of on the other side of the world, but what it means now to most people where he lives.
With so many different designs having been used in false worship, if a person went to the trouble and took the time he might find an undesirable connection with almost every design he sees around him. But why do that? Would it not be needlessly upsetting? And is that the best use of one's time and attention? (Awake!, Dec. 22, 1976, pgs. 12-15)
We concur with them that it certainly is a waste of time looking for pagan connections in every object. Note similar statements in the WT of May 15, 1972 (p. 295):
Whether an object is an idol or not primarily depends on how it is viewed. . . . the fact that various creatures, plants and heavenly bodies - all parts of God's creative works have been and still are being given veneration would not in itself make them unacceptable for decorative or ornamental purposes. Many things that were at one time worshiped by the ancients have lost their idolatrous significance and are generally regarded as being merely ornamental.
The Watchtower is emphasizing that (1) Designs or symbols in themselves are not necessarily wrong to use, even if once used by pagans in false worship. (2) It is a waste of time and needlessly upsetting to concern ourselves with what an object may have meant in times past, or even elsewhere on the earth in our day.
The inconsistency of the WT now becomes manifest, for most all the holidays celebrated in the Western world have lost their original pagan significance. Take Christmas for example. Long before the time of Christ pagans worshiped the sun on December 25, the time of the winter solstice (where the sun is farthest from the earth). As with all pagan holidays, it was a time for generosity and licentiousness. When the Catholic Church instituted the celebration of the birth of Christ as December 25 around the year 336 A.D., it was to replace the Sol Invictus festival introduced by the emperor Aurelian in the 3rd century. It was considered the victory of Christianity over paganism. The later canonizing of St. Nicholas (Santa Claus) and the giving of gifts was tied in with church history.
According to the Watchtower's reasoning, the question we should ask is: Does Christmas mean to us what it did to the pagans? Do people in our part of the world still worship the sun on December 25? The answer is NO. Though it is a time of year that is abused and exploited by many, that cannot be used as a case against the Christian concept of Christmas. Though the WT complaint that Christ was not born on December 25 is true, a celebration need not take place on the actual day of its memorial. Most of us get holidays off from work on different days than the historical date, and we don't consider such a practice wrong!
Easter has a more church-related history. Originally, the early church celebrated the modern equivalent of Easter (the resurrection of Christ) on every Sunday, in expectation of the return of the Lord. Later, in linking the Passion and the Resurrection story, this memorial was scheduled on Passover, the Jewish feast celebrating the Exodus from Egypt. The date for the celebration was finally set by the Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D. as the first Sunday after the full moon that follows the spring equinox. As early as the eighth century the name "Easter" was transferred by the Anglo-Saxons to the Christian festival. The name itself was borrowed from a celebration to Astarte, goddess of fertility. Also borrowed from the celebration to Astarte was the use of rabbits and eggs, common symbols of fertility in the pagan culture. (For more information on Christmas and Easter, see Encyclopedia Britannica (1982 Ed.), Vol. 4, page 501.)
While the trappings of both church history and the pagan holiday are still with us, their significance has changed. As with the original observance of the resurrection, today we do not connect rabbits and eggs with fertility rites, and neither do most people consider Easter as a time for greater licentiousness. Even the television programs during this time are geared to obviously Christian themes.
Other holidays can be examined individually to ascertain what is the modern significance of their meaning in the Western World.
OBJECTION #2: Holidays are not mentioned in the Bible, except in perhaps a negative sense. Also, we are not commanded to celebrate anything but the Lord's Evening Meal.
Though the WT only admits to two birthdays being mentioned in the Bible, there are actually three that were celebrated. There was the birthday of Pharaoh (Gen. 40:20), Herod (Matt. 14:6), and also the birth of Christ, celebrated by the angels in song and much glory:
And the angel said to them, "Do not be afraid; for behold, I bring you good news of a great joy which shall be for all the people; for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord". . . . And suddenly there appeared with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, "Glory to God in the highest, and on the earth peace among men with whom he is pleased." (Luke 2:10,11,13,14)
It was convenient to the WT to leave this very positive and important birthday out of their consideration, for it destroys their point in saying that all birthdays in the Bible were negative.
The WT also claims that since the Bible does not tell us to celebrate certain holidays, we should not have anything to do with them. This is a wrong assumption from at least two standpoints. First of all, Jesus nor the apostles mention modern holidays as we know them, for they simply did not exist then. All the Jewish holidays were national religious holidays, which they were allowed to observe EVEN AFTER THE COMING OF CHRIST AND THE ABOLITION OF THE LAW! (Col. 2:16,17) The WT should consider Paul an apostate, for he said that observing or not observing special days was up to the individual (Rom. 14:5,6), and even CONTINUED in certain practices of the Law though it had passed away! (Acts 13:14,15; 21:20-26)
Jehovah's Witnesses practice many things that the Bible does not tell them to do, such as counting time spent in their magazine and book work and book studies, setting aside certain days on the calendar to go spreading WT doctrine, singing Kingdom songs, having District and Circuit Assemblies, answering specified questions for baptism, etc. None of these do they consider wrong, yet such practices have become traditional for them.
OBJECTION #3: Holidays idolize something or someone other than God, and the Bible says to "Flee from idolatry" and "We are no part of the world."
Worshiping Christ is proper according to the NT. Not only did the angels worship him (Heb. 1:6), but so are all creatures to worship him both in heaven and earth (Rev. 5:13,14). Furthermore, we are to give him equal honor with the Father (John 5:23). To worship Christ on any day is proper, including December 25 and Easter.
As far as birthdays are concerned, people do not generally worship their friends or children on their birthdays. What is wrong with doing something special for somebody on a certain day, or even in considering someone as special for a day? There is quite a difference between considering someone special and worshiping or idolizing them. Witnesses usually celebrate their wedding anniversaries, which is a celebration of the birth of their marriage. Perhaps they should not consider each other special at all, whether on their anniversary or on any day. Perhaps marriage is unwise for them by the same reasoning, as a mate could risk being considered "special"!
Few people in modern society are "stumbled" by celebrating the birth of Christ, except for JWs and some others that are legalistic by their very nature. The apostle Paul did not apply his own counsel regarding the stumbling of others (Rom. 14:21) to legalistic sects of Christianity, for their legalism invoked God's wrath (Gal. 5:14).
THE REAL ISSUE REGARDING IDOLATRY
The Law of Moses was a stepping stone to greater understanding of God's nature and how he relates to man in his fallen condition (Gal. 3:24). This same principle must also be understood in the area of idolatry and regarding objects used in false worship. Idolatry is a heart problem - there is nothing inherently evil in an object, such as rosary beads, pentagrams, pictures of Mary, etc. It is what humans DO with such objects and how they VIEW such objects that makes them idolatrous (Deut. 11:16; Job 31:26-28). In the OT, the Israelites were generally too dull of heart to understand this truth. They were forbidden to make images of anything in heaven or earth, to have social intercourse with the pagans around them, to cut their side locks, to eat with Gentiles, etc.
Why, then, are Christians liberated from such laws? Simply because they have the laws of God (actually, the root principles of the Law) inscribed in their hearts (Jer. 31:33; 2 Cor. 3:3; Heb.10:16). They recognize what true idolatry is, a problem with the heart. As such, abstaining from contact with physical objects really doesn't solve the problem. Rather, Christ must go to work to renew their heart internally, so that all forms of idolatry (including love for status, wealth, power, popularity, etc.) will be overcome, even what is not mentioned in the Law of Moses.
If Christians approach idolatry from a different angle, objects or symbols in themselves will have no power over us. We are not to fear any object, or even the devil himself, as if he had power over us. We are to fear God alone (2 Kings 17:35-41).
The apostle Paul makes it very clear that an idol is nothing (1 Cor. 8:4). It has no power except what you grant it from your own fears and superstitions. If you fear an object, then it has power over you, and the devil will use it, you can be sure (Deut. 7:16). The Bible says that through fear of death, man has been subject to slavery all his life. But now that Christ has died for us, he rendered the devil and his objects of fear powerless to Christians (Heb. 2:14,15).
This really delivers the death blow to the WT. Rather than seeing Christ as gaining a victory over fear and death, they are actually afraid of crosses, Ouija boards, spiritists, doctors, ex-JWs, and anything that might remind them of the devil. Rather than viewing such as mere physical objects or the individuals as "misled" people, they will go out of their way to avoid any contact with them. This reminds us of certain religious leaders who feared contamination from supposedly "evil" or idolatrous things (Mark 7:1-23).
Similarly, Jesus said that what you eat will not affect your spirituality. Paul went so far as to say that he could go into the temple of an idol and eat the meat offered to the idol, and it would not affect his health or his spirituality one bit. But he mentions some, because of being weak in faith, would eat such meat and view it as if there really was a god that it was offered to, and their consciences would be defiled (1 Cor. 8:7). If Paul would have viewed objects and idolatrous rituals as the Pharisees did and as the JWs do now, he would never have come near an idol temple, let alone eat the actual meat that was offered up on its altar. This was more serious than going "trick-or-treat" on Halloween! It would be like going to a banquet of Satan worshipers and having a bite to eat before you give a witness! For Paul, it was simply nothing to fear or be concerned over, unless it stumbled the weaker ones in the church (1 Cor. 8:9-13). If the whole church was strong in their faith, they could have gone out to the local idol temple restaurant and had a feast together! This illustrates the supreme victory of Christianity over the devil and his world (Luke 10:18-20; Acts 26:18).
It is unfortunate that JWs are blind to our freedom in Christ. Like the Pharisees, they are bound up in rules and fears regarding holidays, objects and certain people. Would that they understand the root principles in Paul's letter to the Colossians, where he says:
Since you died, as it were, with Christ and this has set you free from following the world's ideas of how to be saved by doing good and obeying various rules why do you keep right on following them anyway, still bound by such rules as not eating, tasting, or even touching certain foods? Such rules are mere human teachings, for food was made to be eaten and used up. These rules may seem good, for rules of this kind require strong devotion and are humiliating and hard on the body, but they have no effect when it comes to conquering a person's evil thoughts and desires. They only make him proud. (Col. 2:20-23; [LB])
Whether you choose to celebrate traditional holidays or not, do not feel that it matters to God one way or the other. What matters to him is whether you love him with all your heart, and love your fellow man as yourself. To fall into religious bondage over these issues will result in spiritual regression and pride, as Paul said above. To grow up into Christ means a freedom to live in this sinful world, and yet not be affected by its idolatry.
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Mark this page - UN/Watchtower stuff
by Dogpatch inhttp://www.thetruthhurts.freeservers.com/unitednations.htm .
a direct page where i hope to keep all the united nations-related documentation.
it will later improve hopefully with timeline, more links, etc.. randy
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Mark this page - UN/Watchtower stuff
by Dogpatch inhttp://www.thetruthhurts.freeservers.com/unitednations.htm .
a direct page where i hope to keep all the united nations-related documentation.
it will later improve hopefully with timeline, more links, etc.. randy
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http://www.thetruthhurts.freeservers.com/unitednations.htm
A direct page where I hope to keep all the United Nations-related documentation. It will later improve hopefully with timeline, more links, etc.
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Mind Control in Terrorism Cells
by Dogpatch inre-distribution and proper re-posting of this document is appreciated.. f.a.c.t.net newsletter.
factnet news opinion/editorial october 2001 .
subject: mind control cult involvement in world trade center bombings .
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Re-distribution and proper re-posting of this document is appreciated.
F.A.C.T.Net Newsletter
Factnet News Opinion/Editorial October 2001Subject: Mind Control Cult Involvement in World Trade Center Bombings
Behind the World Trade Center and the Pentagon bombings was the involvement of a mind control cult just as a mind control cult was behind the Aum Shinrikyo sarin gas attacks in the Tokyo subways. Leading cult and mind control experts have confirmed that the terrorists are members of a mind control cult that had expediently hijacked and distorted Islamic religious dogma. But just how one of the world’s oldest and most secretive cults is involved will follow after a little background on the mind control element behind this terrorism…
The individuals who perpetrated the World Trade Center bombings acted because of a set of ideas and values that they “believed.” These ideas and values seem to most of us not just extreme, but insane (i.e. suicide and the killing of innocent others.) To find out why, who and what actually caused the World Trade Center bombings you have to go beyond considering the mere scaffolding of any possible defensible rationality of the ideas, values and motivations held by the terrorists or that of the people who sent them. When you see the terrorist’s actions through the two lenses of mind control and the psychology of how to create and maintain a destructive cultic group, you will understand the real method used to implant the ideas and values that ultimately motivated their horrific acts.
More importantly, when the US government and military also begin to see the World Trade Center terrorists as members of a mind control cult and that the cult terrorist and the cult fanatic are essentially the same, they will be more successful in hindering future acts of terrorism. The statement that the World Trade Center terrorists were members of a mind control cult does not imply in any way that the terrorists must not be handled with swift and appropriate physical intervention and detention to prevent more terrorist acts. It means that if the US government response is appropriate to the proper handling of the actual mind control and cult causes of the attacks it won’t make as the FBI lack of understanding of mind control cults did at WACO.
How the World Trade Center and the Pentagon Cult Terrorists were manufactured:
Experts on Middle Eastern terrorists have discovered that they are regularly recruited from ultra-fundamentalist Islamic religious schools.** In these schools the potential recruits are subjected a severe process of mental exercises, discipline and testing far more difficult than that of the terrorists’ physical training in the training camps.
This known clue is important because it links directly to the long history of mind control cult terrorism in the Arabic world. As early as the 7th century AD a cult called the Hashishin was already in the terrorism business. (Hashishin is the derived source of the modern word assassin.)
Through the centuries this cult perfected some of the earliest empirical antecedents of modern mind control using its members as unknowing test subjects. Using distorted Islamic religious imagery and a series of severe mental and physical exercises (initiations) they were able to program their members to kill themselves with or without reason literally on command or kill themselves while executing assassinations or, joyously go on missions of certain death. Their members did anything asked of them because they were programmed to believe they would immediately go to Paradise as a martyr for Islam and be awarded with scores of waiting virgins and all other forms of comfort and wealth.
For centuries the Hashishin cult network has been the dark side of Arabic culture and has terrorized any person or organization that opposed it. Now, in an evolved and morphed form, the mind control skills and cultic structure of the Hashishin is still in existence and being used again. But, today it is also being augmented with the additional power of more modern mind control technology and modern intelligence training.
It would take too much time here to describe the full terrorist history of the Hashishin mind control cult in the Arabic world much less the riveting Hashishin mind control training procedures. For this we strongly recommend you see Chapters 1 and 2 of Secret Societies: Yesterday and Today, by Arkon Daraul. (Published by the Frederick Muller, London.) There you will see in vivid detail the origins and history of the modern Arabic mind control system used in an evolved form to help create the terrorists who bombed the World Trade Center.
Keep in mind not all terrorists go though mind control in a cult setting such as the World Trade Center terrorists. The terrorist suicide bombers currently plaguing Israel are generally not subjected to as an intense of a regimen of mind control or cultic surroundings as those terrorist recruited out of the Islamic ultra-fundamentalist religious schools.
For instance, one of the weaker of the more modern mind control techniques used to keep terrorist attacking Israel on suicide missions has recently surfaced on TV. It was to have the terrorist make a video to their families before their suicides stating how glad they are to become Islamic martyrs and how happy they were going to Paradise. (Remember the Heaven’s Gate Hale Bop cult’s pre-suicide videos stating how glad the members were to be getting into the spaceship behind the comet?) Knowing that the pre-suicide video exists and will be given to others helps compel the terrorist to follow through with their mission or be subjected to an unbearable humiliation.
(A full and detailed description of how specific mind control and cult control techniques work linked at the end of this editorial. *)
Recruiting terrorists:
How do you recruit a person to rain terror, death and destruction on people they do not even know? Do you look for someone who is already evil?
No. You use bait. The best bait is information that can easily be accepted as true and may, from a certain perspective, in fact be true.
What you hear in the media as the reasons for the recent acts of terrorism at World Trade Center and the Pentagon is that the terrorists believe that the US economic, political and/or military culture is destroying their religious culture or that the US is harming fellow Arabs in the middle east in the Arab Israeli conflict. Or, that the US is bias toward the Israelis and the Israelis have taken away an Arab homeland and Arab human rights.
All the above are ideas and values that, from a certain Arab/Islamic perspective, could be argued or believed to be true. This perception of the “injustices” being imposed upon them or their people from without, followed by a feeling of powerlessness to effect or stop the force creating the perceived injustices creates the depth of frustration and anger that is an ideal soil for terrorist recruiting.
It is only then, after the now willing recruit has taken the ideological “bait”, that the technologies of mind control found in destructive cults can be effectively applied. The successful application of these mind and cult control tactics then prevent the recruit from being able to re-evaluate or rethink his membership or anything the cult tells him to do in order to fanatically punish the cause of the perceived injustice and frustration. (For more on the practiced cult recruiting deceptions see Chapters 1 and 2 of Secret Societies, Yesterday and Today mentioned above.)
How the US government should handle the cult terrorism situation:
1. Treat this as a horrible international crime committed by a relatively small terrorist mind control cult, not an act of international war by a nation!
2. Because of the international scope of the crime and its magnitude, engage the UN, World Court and the International community (especially the Islamic nations) to help in apprehending the terrorists, their handlers and supporters and bring them swiftly to trial in the International World Court.
3. Engage the UN, World Court and the International community (especially the Arab Islamic nations) in actively helping to prevent further terrorism using international law and law enforcement.
4. Train the US State department, US Intelligence, and the US military agencies by the world’s leading cult and mind control experts on how to control, contain and stop mind control cults so that they do not inadvertently turn Afghanistan or other Middle Eastern countries into another WACO/FBI/cult-handling disaster --- only this time on a global scale. (Considering that the devastating Okalahoma City bombing retaliation came from one of our own citizens motivated by the WACO FBI cult handling disaster, imagine what unaprehended Arab cult terrorists will do to retaliate if the US response to this cult terrorism is not wise, just and precise.)
5. Begin worldwide education on mind control and destructive cult technology led by Islamic religious and political leaders. They know this problem well they have been dealing with it for 13 centuries. This will help inoculate more individuals from being recruited.
6. Slow and prevent further “bait-based” terrorist recruitment by insuring that there are effective methods for Arab grievance hearing and resolution as well as true economic, and political enfranchisement. This will reduce the fertile recruiting ground of frustration, anger, powerlessness and disenfranchisement many Arabs perceive.
7. Do not allow the psychological warfare departments to start dehumanizing the cult terrorists as evil enemies or inhuman. Mind control cults are an international criminal problem involving about 20,000 members worldwide. They are not a military problem requiring war on other nations. We should not forget that the terrorists are human beings that have been subjected to the evil of a mind control cult and, no matter how heinous their crimes are, they still are and always will remain human beings with inalienable international rights to justice and due process. It is the evil within the mind control cult that turns humans into monsters and, if as the US president repeatedly states, “this is a war on evil,” at least --- let it be on the right evil target and real cause of the terrorism.
What will most likely happen if the cult Terrorists are not Handled with Wisdom, Precision and International Law and Justice:
There are probably hundreds of isolated cells of sympathetic cult terrorists in dozens of Arabic countries around the world. If the US does not let the UN do the job it was designed to do and let the Islamic countries play a predominant role in a multinational UN force to affect the physical intervention, detention and the putting of the terrorists on trial, the following consequences are likely:
a. The military martyrdom of Osama Ben Laden and others will enflame and refuel the other terrorists cells. There will be retaliation by the other cells at levels that could be far beyond the embassy bombings and the World Trade Center bombings wherever US tourists, business and trade interests exist. These attacks will also further harm a global economy that is already in recession and create a worldwide environment of fear that, in itself, would be crippling to life as we cherish it.
b. The military martyrdom of a few will enflame and refuel the cult’s worldwide Arab/Islamic terrorist recruiting efforts. If there is a US dominated military attack that is not led by the UN and based on International law, you will soon have the recruits to create thousands more cells.
c. Military action that is not under the UN leadership may destabilize Arabic countries with civil unrest and coups. Some of these countries, besides having most of the world’s oil reserves, have biological and nuclear arsenals. This then could quickly lead to both regional war and or even a world war with the possible use of tactical biological and nuclear weapons.
History has repeatedly shown that dealing with isolated mind control cults is not effective with Rambo solutions and usually has the exact opposite effect. Hopefully there are many individuals in the US who will speak out for an appropriate response to the real causes of this terrorism before it is too late and a disproportionate or inappropriate war-like response makes the situation far worse.
To effectively stop this terrorist cult from acting again one has to ultimately defeat the mind control machine that has created the ideas and values implanted into the terrorists and not just attempt to defeat the people who hold the ideas and values! To solve the terrorist problem one needs to see beyond the obvious battle between peoples or the battle between competing ideas and values.
If one martyrs this type of cult member, new recruits will flock to replace them and the terrorism expands. If one attacks the ideas and values of mind control cults then one finds that one is thwarted by a litany of counter arguments and rationalizations. But if one exposes and dismantles the mind control “machine” through the International justice system (for the criminal acts committed) and then one educates people on how a mind control and cult control works, the danger of more terrorist attacks drops, current terrorists gradually become deprogrammed, few new recruits enter the system and, the world of 6 billion people are not plunged into international political and/or economic crisis because of the acts of 20,000 cult hardened members.
The U.S. has had its WACO. The U.S. has had its Vietnam. We have the world’s most powerful military and economy. When we are certain of the precise solution for the real causes of the terrorist attack and we act in cooperation with the world community through the United Nations, we can just as easily handle one of the poorest and technologically backward areas of the world. This will not change over the next months.
It is not the time to rush to a global U. S. dominated military retaliation to solve an international criminal problem. It is absolutely the time for careful discussion, evaluation and planning before acting.
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* The following links that will give you an insight into the specific mind control and cult control tactics that were among those used to implant the ideas and values that ultimately caused the bombings.
Mind Control tactics, a short overview ( http://www.factnet.org/coercivemindcontrol.html .)
The Criteria and Characteristics of Destructive Cult Control ( http://www.factnet.org/rancho5.htm .)
More Information on Mind Control and Cults ( http://www.factnet.org/mindcont.htm .)
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New JW-related book out in Denmark
by Dogpatch ina new book is out in denmark:.
the book that is again.
referred to in the following article, has been mailed.
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Dogpatch
A New book is out in Denmark:
The book that is again
referred to in the following article, has been mailed
to me 2 weeks ago and will hopefully soon show up in
my mailbox.Berlingske Newspaperdata: date- october 6 1994.
..Writer: Åge Iversen.
Archive in the organization, who expose information
about Jehovas Witnesses.
Article heading: "Jehovas Witnesses rule with force
and deadly fear."
Subtitle:"The invisible prison".How far can a civilized world stretch itself in
relations to an organization, that makes slaves,
without an identity, out of it's members? (referring
to the book "Skæbner fra et usynligt fængsel"(victims
of an invisible prison).
The religious sect, Jehovas Witnesses, is again in the
spotlight in connection with Irma Lauridsens
book"Skæbner fra et usynligt fængsel".The book is an
atrocious revelation of, what is going on behind the
shining and polished front, that Jehovas Witnesses try
to keep up toward the rest of the world.
This book is unique in that it gives those people a
voice, who have been through this organizations
psychopathic brainwashing. What these people have been
the subject of, can mildly said, be called downright
dirty.
The book reveales an organization, who uses religion
as a front for their real aganda, which is money and
power. The organization is based on a mix of fear,
anxiety, division and cronic guilt. because the whole
organizations fundamentally buils on deadly fear. If
you do not do exactly what the organization tells you,
you will die on doomsday, which can arrive at any time
now. People who dare to speak against the organization
are disfellowshipped and get a deathsentence along as
baggage. This deathsentence, is in some cases,
impossible for a person to cope with, as this persons
social network is pulled from under them from one
monent to the next. By which means the deathsentence
is carried out, the organization leave up to each
person, weather it be mental illness or suicide. New
scientific findings shows, that mental illness is much
higher among people, who are or has been in contact
with Jehovas Witnesses, than in the rest of the
population.
In the question about blood, the deathsentence is
delivered at the christening . At that time a person
gets disfellowshipped if they don't agree to die for
the organization. The watchtower, Jehovas Witnesses
organization, is run by force. Human rights are
suppressed and grossly violated. The human rights
convention in this country(Denmark) ensures, that
every citizen in this country, has the right to think,
believe and speak freely. The right to change religion
and the right to cast their vote in political
elections. All these rights are prohibited for Jehovas
Witnesses. To think, to believe and to say something,
that is not accepted in The Watchtowers rules and
regulations, is cause for being disfellowshipped. To
change religion will cause the social network to be
removed. Th vote in political elections is cause for
disfellowship.
That is why I(Åge Iversen) am investigating
allegations about The Watchtower, that has been
presented to The Human Rights Tribunal in Strasbourg.
By the same token, Jehovas Witnesses have to break the
code of silence, that medical personnell and others
adhere to, if they, as employees at at hospital have
access to information about other Jehovas Witnesses,
who have had an abortion or a bloodtransfusion.
They have to beat their children even if it is
strictly forbidden according to danish law.They have
to refuse any form of military training, as the
countrys requirement of an individual, is transferred
to The Watchtower. They have to put God's law ahead of
the countrys law.
The Watchtower is a totalitarian and dictatorial state
within a state that uses brainwashing as a means to
accomplice their goal. This they do by inducing a
constant deadly fear, combined with the surpression of
any form of pleasure and joy. These methodes has the
greatest impact on the children. They do not have an
earthly chance to experience anything else but The
Watchtower world. Everything else is forbidden and a
sin. This extreme oppression of pleasure is in many
cases the cause of incest and rape among Jehovas
Witnesses. All ex-Jehovas Witnesse are telling about
frustrated sexual feelings among Jehovas Witnesses,
because everything of sexual nature is surpressed and
made visible. The rest of the Article is about how The Watchtower do
not adhere to any law but their own and how incest and
rape victims are punished and the perpetrators go free.Exposing False Prophets and Doomsday Cults. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected]