Posts by doinmypart

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Paradox: Are Faithless Watchtower Leaders Reform's Best Hope?

by metatron in

while many among the watchtower's leadership are no doubt sincere, there is no proof.

more than this, in examining the life of a man like rutherford - complete with.

his habits involving cruelty, alcohol, greed , reviling others, neglect of his family and contempt.

doinmypart

Have they lost it completely? Are they even trying anymore?

Y'know Metatron, I don't think they are trying anymore. They are coasting along, making insignificant changes, and hoping that something will happen to divert the attention of the members.

And you are correct...the leaders change what they want (like the Generation change), ignore what they want (UN inquiries and no KM announcment explaining their position), spin, spin, spin...and the sheep fall in line.

Maybe Jaracz and his ilk are the Org's own worst enemy.

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BSOs on the Daniel book

by IP_SEC in

so here comes patdp very soon.

it's not as bad as ipalfatn i & ii, but still its based on the idea of 607 and 1914.. how have any of you ex or current book study overseers handled this problem.

i'd like not to conduct but thats not really an option.

doinmypart

Unfortunately I'll have to conduct the study in the Daniel book. Like IP_SEC, I'm not desirous of admiration, I'm just in a situation where my wife is a true believer and at this point I can't rock the boat anymore than I have recently.

Hang in there IP.

As Wilyloman mentioned I used to try to subtly bring about change within my congregation, but only ended up exhausted & frustrated.

Hopefully this 2nd consideration of the Daniel book will result in lower book study attendance.

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WTS Leaders strong arm tactics

by doinmypart in

jw
friends

wts leaders don't want to give up their authority.

they fear that doing so will give members too much time to think and pursue personal goals at the expense of organizational goals.. but in small ways they are being forced to loosen their grip.

out of one corner of their mouths they say, "voting/blood fractions/certain holidays are a conscience matter" while at the same time tyring to maintain control via strong arm tactics - -.

doinmypart

Hello & welcome Purplesofa.

The situation in the Org is becoming unbearable. I attend the meetings, look around at the faces and feel sadness. There is nothing wrong with you, feeling like we aren't "spiritual" enough is part of the indoctrination.

Continue to hang out on this site, observe, and feel free to participate whenever you're so inclined.

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WTS Leaders strong arm tactics

by doinmypart in

jw
friends

wts leaders don't want to give up their authority.

they fear that doing so will give members too much time to think and pursue personal goals at the expense of organizational goals.. but in small ways they are being forced to loosen their grip.

out of one corner of their mouths they say, "voting/blood fractions/certain holidays are a conscience matter" while at the same time tyring to maintain control via strong arm tactics - -.

doinmypart

WTS leaders don't want to give up their authority. They fear that doing so will give members too much time to think and pursue personal goals at the expense of Organizational goals.

But in small ways they are being forced to loosen their grip. Out of one corner of their mouths they say, "Voting/blood fractions/certain holidays are a conscience matter" while at the same time tyring to maintain control via strong arm tactics - -

the CO giving a talk, asking"Would a TRUE Christian vote"...WT articles & Assembly parts about having too many hobbies...
directives to Elders to DA people for ____________ (insert WT law here)...
KM articles on the PROPER treatment of DF relatives

These guys just don't get it. The control they exert on people's lives and the demand for conformity is played out. This Organization has lost it's vibrancy. Sure there are a few people in the congregations that enjoy it & have a zeal. But overall there is no life in the Org, there is nothing new, things are stale and lethargic.

Members drone along at weekly meetings and field service. The leaders' tight grip has quashed any creativity and spark individual members may have had.

Such a sad situation. Hopefully their heavy-handedness will contribute to their downfall.

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March KM also gives instructions to POs

by stillajwexelder in

also in the march km apart from the big front page article about awake being monthly - is a rebuke to pos to distribute kms as soon as they arrive.

i am glad about this - far too many pos are control freaks and distribute kms at last possible minute - it is almost as if they are saying - i am better than you because i get my km about 3 weeks before you do.

anyway we got our march kms last night and they were distributed immediately

doinmypart

Did you also notice the announcement about the songs circulating among JWs? A few months ago JWs thought George Benson & Celine Dion remade a few Kingdom Melodies. The Branch says the friends are calling asking about the songs. The Branch announces they do not authorize the songs and JWs are not supposed to circulate or download the songs from the Internet.

These guys are really over stepping their bounds. I'm sure more people have called about the UN deal than about the songs. How come there wasn't an announcement about the UN?

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It is official-Awake to be monthly-PDF scan of KM for your review....

by CaptainSchmideo in

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friends

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i will post this as a link for download, it's about 3.5 meg (searchable!).

http://members.cox.net/captainschmideo/km-e_us_3-05-march%202005.pdf.

doinmypart

Thanks for posting all four pages of the KM.

Look at the announcements on p.3...remember a few months ago JWs thought George Benson & Celine Dion remade a few Kingdom Melodies? Well regardless of who sang the songs they sounded halfway decent all things considered. The Branch says the friends are calling asking about the songs and so they are making an announcement that the songs are not authorized by Society, and then they proceed to tell grown people not to circulate the songs or download them from the Internet!

The gall of these men. There are much more important things they need to announce to the congregations besides not downloading a few songs. How about announcing, "We were wrong, we are sorry" or "This is the last KM, no more Service Meetings".

How many more friends have called the Branch about the UN fiasco, but there wasn't a KM announcement.

These guys are bananas.

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Why the WTS hates the Internet

by doinmypart in

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friends

the wts & its various corporations are a behemoth, rudderless ship with no one at the helm; only concerned with self-preservation.

the result is an inflexible organization slow to make change and not interested in the welfare & rights of individual members.. the internet and boards such as this allow for excellent communication and freedom of information.. because the internet is free and provides relative anonymity it has proven to be one of the greatest threats to the wts.. the wts leaders could be proactive and act in an ethical way, but they'd rather react when a perceived "threat" arises -- telling members to avoid the internet, shun family members, do more/stay busy, and so on.. as jt used to say, "i love this 'net thang".

dmp

doinmypart

Steve - I forgot about that thread, it was an excellent synopsis of what is happening in the Org. Thanks for the reminder.

Dustin - It is quite sickening how they control, and influence even the smallest aspects of people's lives.

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THE INFORMATION AGE AND NEW JW MARKETING CHANGES

by seven006 in

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friends

lately on this board there has been a couple of threads that show how much the watchtower is being effected by the open communication of the internet and web sites like this one.

they are changing long time policy and trying new ways of getting their religious product to the market.

no longer do their leaders hear the voice of god and then pass it directly on as unwavering guidance to their customers.

doinmypart

bttt an Excellent post.

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Was I a coward?

by DanTheMan in

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friends

right before i disassociated myself last march, i sent an email to quite a number of jw's that contained only a link to an "apostate" website that had been instrumental in my seeing the the truth about the wt.. well, nobody responded to it except for one person, a guy who i hadn't had any contact with my last year in.

he started out with "yikes, do you know i'm disfellowshipped?

" he then went on for several paragraphs defending the org, how loving the brothers were when they disfellowshipped him .

doinmypart

This is GREAT!

We never know what will result from the seeds we plant today. We may not see growth as soon as we'd like, but hopefully the people we care about will one day wake up from their WT-induced slumber.

Try not to overwhelm the JW with too much information at once. And be sure to live a happy, productive life.

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Why the WTS hates the Internet

by doinmypart in

jw
friends

the wts & its various corporations are a behemoth, rudderless ship with no one at the helm; only concerned with self-preservation.

the result is an inflexible organization slow to make change and not interested in the welfare & rights of individual members.. the internet and boards such as this allow for excellent communication and freedom of information.. because the internet is free and provides relative anonymity it has proven to be one of the greatest threats to the wts.. the wts leaders could be proactive and act in an ethical way, but they'd rather react when a perceived "threat" arises -- telling members to avoid the internet, shun family members, do more/stay busy, and so on.. as jt used to say, "i love this 'net thang".

dmp

doinmypart

The WTS & its various corporations are a behemoth, rudderless ship with no one at the helm; only concerned with self-preservation. The result is an inflexible Organization slow to make change and not interested in the welfare & rights of individual members.

The Internet and boards such as this allow for excellent communication and freedom of information.

Because the Internet is free and provides relative anonymity it has proven to be one of the greatest threats to the WTS.

The WTS leaders could be proactive and act in an ethical way, but they'd rather react when a perceived "threat" arises -- telling members to avoid the Internet, shun family members, do more/stay busy, and so on.

As JT used to say, "I love this 'net thang"

dmp