Jehoober did
Man... watch out for that lightning bolt. It has your name on it.
i was df bout a year back and have since been enlightened by a life long friend.
i am leaning toward returning anyway but mostly for familyand friends.
i recognize the hypocrisy of this move but also don't feel that i should be subject to there authority and in my current state i am.
Jehoober did
Man... watch out for that lightning bolt. It has your name on it.
i'm a bit reluctant in writing this post, for i dont feel i should be here.
even a bit nervous... .
i've never officially dedicated myself to jehovah, but i was brought up in the truth, very strong, and at times when getting older, there were lulls in my attendance... yet to this day i still attend.
I am here because I wanted to answer everyone...No more, no less. Even those who have no respect for me as a human being.
I respect you. I respect you for standing up for what you believe in, despite the fact that there were bullies around messing with the little kid.
Now its not all that bad, i've actually ejoyed listening to everyone and was encouraged a bit, maybe not in the direction I wanted, but encouraged nontheless. But please take your own advise, and after you have answered everyones questions, high tail it out of here. I am... tomorrow will be my last day.
This board does have a lot of info, but after seeing how quick, intelligent, and knowlegable about the truth of the truth they have, I've kept quiet. I would love to stir up something, but dare not tread on unknown waters. I'm amazed at the knowledge you all have.
Hummingbird, make your visit here short, and sorry I dragged you into this. I'll be gone myself after tomorrow.
i'm a bit reluctant in writing this post, for i dont feel i should be here.
even a bit nervous... .
i've never officially dedicated myself to jehovah, but i was brought up in the truth, very strong, and at times when getting older, there were lulls in my attendance... yet to this day i still attend.
before you engage in verbal swordplay on here. You see, ex-JW apostates know absolutely EVERYTHING you know plus way MORE. We can research and read anything we wish, whereas you...................can't. Scary, isn't it?
And thats exactly why I am now in the backseat... just listening. Scary? Heck ya. Just the way you said that gave me the chills... almost sounded a little dem.. <cough> onized <cough>. What? I didn't say anything.
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on another thread, a co says that sites like these don't have much impact on their numbers.. personally i didn't leave because of this site or any other xjw site.. i was unhappy and felt that something was wrong and this site confirmed what i felt.. how about you?
It didn't. It only helped me to see that the WTS really is imperfect, as I expected.
Maybe another question to ask would be this:
What impact did the members of a forum such as this, have on your decision to leave the JW's?
My answer would be : it almost had a great impact on my leaving... until one single post of encouragement. I love the community I see, but encouragement is just about nonexistent (towards the JW's).
i've been reading this board regularly since it was introduced to me in march of this year.
at first, i was finding it pretty difficult coming to terms with the fact that my whole life had been a lie, but really, i suppose there's not much point in worrying about this now, what's done is done, and i'm still easily young enough to make a life in 'the world' despite a slow start.
the problem is that i have no idea how to go about.
Let me say this. You are only 20 years old, and from what you are saying, you're whole life has been centered around the witnesses which means that you more than likely still have the mindset of a true witness. So with that being said, why do you want to leave? Just too much pressure or its just too time consuming? You mentioned that you want to further your knowledge, which I personally feel there is nothing wrong with it and your family shouldn't either but the problem is that you said you dont know how to tell them you dont want to be a part of it any longer. So why? Why would you want to leave?
How about approaching your family, letting them know that you want to advance your career, then keep doing what you can in the ministry. Nothing wrong with that.
I came here because of some things I've learned, which was a bit alarming, but it turned out to be a good source of information.
You can only expect one answer by coming to a site like this and asking a question like that... and that is to leave Jehovahs organization. Get your education, do what you can in this world to better your life, but when it comes to Jehovah's organization dont leave it because of what others say or just because. Stick with it man... cause i'm still your brother.
Now notice this... Notice what responses I get by putting this message of encouragement out there. Here they come.
the thread about got me thinking about my very early childhood, back when witnesses were allowed to be social and have get togethers.
they also had a piano in every congregation i ever attended, and an older sister would always play the kingdom melody.
there was actual singing - not mindless droning and humming.
I'm 35 and do remember the piano being at the hall quite well. It was in the "sticks" over in Lufkin Texas, and like an earlier post, more than anything, I remember a little old lady playing the piano, windows and doors were wide open because it was so hot, and there being a big fan blowing on us. I remember that everyone also had a paper fan... fanning away. Speaking of hot, we had this old blue van that we called "the old blue van", it had no A/C and each year when going to the district assembly (about 120 miles), it was so hot that all 120 miles we left the big old sliding door open to cool us down... because there were 7 of us kids, my dad put 3 rows of bus seats in the van to fit us all.... and one time when getting close to our little old hotel, right in the middle of downtown Houston, another van pulled up to the left of us, and it was one of the really cool modern vans, with carpet, brand new, and when I looked over, there was this other kid... I thought it was cool, so in true JW style, I smiled and started waving... he then flipped me off.
Long time ago.
well, i've been reading, and reading, and even more reading and just dont have it in me to respond (midnight here)... so... here's whats going on with me this weekend.. i live in houston, and scheduled a trip up to austin for the weekend for a little race that we are participating in.
check it out, its pretty cool.
its called the muddybuddy and can be found @ www.muddybuddy.com.
Well, i've been reading, and reading, and even more reading and just dont have it in me to respond (midnight here)... so... here's whats going on with me this weekend.
I live in Houston, and scheduled a trip up to Austin for the weekend for a little race that we are participating in. Check it out, its pretty cool. Its called the MuddyBuddy and can be found @ www.muddybuddy.com. We left home around 1 today, dropped the kids off with family, headed out, got here around 6pm, got our room and when heading back to the truck to get our things, found a little baby bird on the ground flapping around spastically and found that it was covered in ants. Now of course me being the man, and me having my wife right next to me, I had to do what I could to save the little guys life. I immediatley removed all of those little demon ants, and the little bird was either dehydrated or was trying to feed. So, I took him up to the room, wrapped him in a little towel, tried giving him a little water because no telling how long he was in the sun, sprinkled a little water on his back (i have no idea what im doing) to cool him off, which seemed he liked, but a few minutes later he stopped breathing. My wife started to panic, so I tried to pump his little heart (no way going to do mouth to mouth), but eventually died. After that I was really hungry :) spent about 2 hours eating @ Pappadeaux's, and now we're back at the hotel. We're going to spent the day tomorrow hanging out around town, then on Sunday, early in the morning @ 7:30, the race begins. Cant wait, should be fun.
What's everyone else up to?
i'm a bit reluctant in writing this post, for i dont feel i should be here.
even a bit nervous... .
i've never officially dedicated myself to jehovah, but i was brought up in the truth, very strong, and at times when getting older, there were lulls in my attendance... yet to this day i still attend.
Aside from repentance and conversion I can't find a single Scripture to support any of the requirements they say a believer must meet in order to qualify for baptism. If I am not to rely on my own understanding, should I rely on the understanding of other imperfect, uninspired men? If so, why? If not, I need the Scriptures that support their teaching on pre-baptismal requirements so that I may rely on the teachings of the Bible instead of the traditional interpretation of men.
I believe I read one of your posts the other night, and you mentioned only 2 things are required... Faith and Love, whereas the WTS has a list of about 5 things/requirments before one can be baptized. Are not those few other requirements not to ensure one will truly represent Jehovah in the correct way? Does not the society not have any leg room to ensure this?
i'm a bit reluctant in writing this post, for i dont feel i should be here.
even a bit nervous... .
i've never officially dedicated myself to jehovah, but i was brought up in the truth, very strong, and at times when getting older, there were lulls in my attendance... yet to this day i still attend.
the same guys who are "only 90%" in your own words and have such a huge history of errors and false prophecy
Show me another religeon, movement, or people that tries as hard at the WTS, that holds God with utmost respect, that lives and dies by his word regardless of the outcome. Then show me who even comes close to that 90% mark that is mentioned above. That last 10% I personally have reserved for their errors, and new enlightenment that may come our way. I think 90% is very accurate assesment of how hard the WTS tries... of which im sure noone else can claim.
Key word is "tries". Why? because even the religeous organziations are run by men. If lowly men can err, then so can a movement/organization.
One very, very small example of something I read last night.... There was a past elder who made a comment attacking/insulting the witnesses because of them not watching "R" rated material. In such a small example, who else tries harder than the witnesses to even tackle such a simple task? For out benefit? Yep... I know I wouldn't subject my kids to that material.
By doing what we wish, by doing whatever else that might be against JW's principles really sets you free, really makes you happy, which is the main theme here on this board, then can we really say that we are doing what God wants? Or maybe doing what God wants isn't the key. Maybe its just us being happy within ourselves...
Then we grow old, die, and thats it. What kind of hope is that?
Respectfully,
i was df bout a year back and have since been enlightened by a life long friend.
i am leaning toward returning anyway but mostly for familyand friends.
i recognize the hypocrisy of this move but also don't feel that i should be subject to there authority and in my current state i am.
Who are you living for? Whose life is it?
We live for ourselves, we do what makes us happy.
Am I right guys?
Now of course making Jehovah God happy is a different story. If you decide to, then I support you.