Jayhawk1: Saki, you stick to your beliefs and I will stick to the facts, okay? Your beliefs will serve you well.
My belief is that you can go walk off of a cliff and I could care less...
And your right, my belief of that did serve me well.
think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
Jayhawk1: Saki, you stick to your beliefs and I will stick to the facts, okay? Your beliefs will serve you well.
My belief is that you can go walk off of a cliff and I could care less...
And your right, my belief of that did serve me well.
think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
Jayhaw1: 10% of 100 people will give you 10 people.
10% of 1000 people will give you 100 people.
Which gives you more people, obviously the second, but the per capita remains the same. As populations grow, obviously if a disaster hit, the concentration of people would cause a large number of casualties. You've proved nothing unless you can show more occurances of the same thing.
AlanF: : The Society claims that earthquakes, famine, pestilence and war
suddenly became much worse problems for mankind in 1914. The facts say
otherwise:
I would assume that the destructiveness of a natural disaster, namely earthquakes, is ultimately measured in casualties. Regardless what the measure of a disaster is based on, whether its Per Capita or not, if it kills more people... then wouldn't it be easily classified as being more destructive/worse? On a per capita basis the facts may say otherwise. If since 1914 the percentages/per capita has remained the same, but deaths have risen considerably, then I'd say the problem has worsened.
However, http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learning/topics/increase_in_earthquakes.php shows that the increase of Earthquakes may not be on the rise, but may appear to be for the fact that they are now able to locate them easier.
Auldsoul: He said there would be an increase in the number of earthquakes.
Where does is say this?
Matthew 24: 3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?" 4 Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ, [ a ] ' and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.
Verse 6 "You will hear..." Verse 7 "There will be famines and earthquakes in various places". So maybe it simply means that you will hear of these things more frequently.
everyone has a song that reminds them of a particular moment in their lives, happy or sad or sometimes indifferent.
its only that when you hear that song it takes you back even catching you off guard and suddenly your back in high school or remembering someone you loved and lost.
how many of you have a song that reminds you of leaving the org.
Herb Alpert - This Guys in Love With You...
I remember it from my childhood, my Dad would play it all the time, along with Herb Alpert's other albums. The song itself doesn't have any relation to any one of us leaving the truth, and doesn't have any real meaning other than when I think of my Dad, I think of this song, his love for my mom... now he as well as just about the rest of my family have left.
Guess i'm next. We'll see what song fits that occasion.
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in this thread we will examine chapter 18 of the book what does the bible really teach?, entitled baptism and your relationship with god.. .
is there any scripture provided to support the statement?
Regarding this topic, i've been reading through a lot of books, Organzied to do Jehovah Will, ... to Accomplish our Ministry, Reasoning from the Scriptures, What does the Bible Really Teach, United in Worship, Insight Books, etc. and of course the Bible; KJ and NWT. Even though I feel as though I found some interesting things, I admit that I will not be able to defend this topic regarding my beliefs. I know you will shread it to pieces, for your knowledge apparently seems unlimited.
Of course, the 607 topic is wasting away all of my spare time... the little of it that I have.
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Saki2fifty (of the "Standing Upright and Respectfully Singing the Song of Praise "'We're Jehovah's Witnesses" While Displaying a Joyful Smile" class)
some years ago my brother was disfellowshipped.
not for apostasy, but for more mundane reasons.
he has not had the internet, he has not studied the bible much since being disfellowshipped, he has been feeling guilty and considering returning for the last six months.. i had no way of contacting him, having lost touch in the midst of his many moves.
Just stumbled across this posting, and its good to hear that your relationship with your brother has strengthened. My situtation is a bit opposite of yours, but its commendable that you are looking out for whats best for your brother. Also a bit nice to see a change in your writing style... you seem relaxed and at ease.
Anyways, back to browsing...
think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
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i spent about 4 hours last night reading... spent about 2 or 3 hours this morning reading... and reading.. and reading... .
time for a change of pace... anyone up for some wow?
OUTLAW: ArrowStar,I`ll get one in the new year..Then I`m gonna Rock it!!..OUTLAW loves to game!..LOL!!...OUTLAW
Ha... you and others may be able to rock my foundation when it comes to this board, but in WoW... I'll rock your foundation! Bring it on!
Jkidding... That'd be cool to play against some others that are on this thing.
think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
Hillary: Do you have anything of value to add here Saki?
I find this thread to very beneficial for myself, and every now and then I'll inject some stupid remark.
If my one small injection offended you... I'll refrain from such in the future.
My apologies.
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i spent about 4 hours last night reading... spent about 2 or 3 hours this morning reading... and reading.. and reading... .
time for a change of pace... anyone up for some wow?
I just tried reactivating my account... forgot the pswd. Tried the reset automated pswd thing on their site... didn't work cause my email address changed. Tried called T Support, offices are closed on weekend. :( Gonna have to wait until tomorrow.
Dangit!
think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
One thing is for sure... you can't beat AlanF's intellectual insults!