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  Let's welcome quietlyleaving.

  by nvrgnbk in

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  neat nick by the way.

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  Dagney

  Warm welcome "quietlyleaving!"

  This is a great place.
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  Did You Take Your "Ministry" Seriously?

  by minimus in

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  since all jehovah's witnesses are "ministers" and are to act like "watchmen" so as to not be bloodguilty before jehovah god, would you say that you, personally were a fine zealous preacher?

  did you make sure that you accurately kept your house-to-house records up to date?

  did you make sure you were back in a timely fashion once you placed literature?

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  Dagney

  Oh man, did I ever.

  Even though it got less serious over that last 10 years or so, show up for FS, do some calls (drive bys) then to breakfast outside of the territory (with a car group mostly led by elder or MS.)

  I did try to share the "good news" (NOT) everyday with someone, especially at work. I really had some good experiences. Toward the end, I could not in good faith use the literature so I only used the Bible. Then even that became a conflict for me.

  **sigh**

  No wonder I hate it ALL now.
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  Universal Soverienty

  by emptywords in

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  one of the biggest tests for me when learning with the jw was why god permitted wickedness, suffering, cruelty ect... they say because of the issue involving jehovah'suniversal soverienty, satans challenge to gods right to rule..gen 3:15. and how we are all involved in this issue (job).

  also people will have to know i am jehovah (ezekiel 36:23: 39:7) the sanctification of gods name is placed as the highest importance for the issue of u. s.. i have always had a problem with this, as for me i can't understand how god could allow so much cruelty just to prove satan a liar and through inhereted sin we to are involved in this because adam was our fleshly father.

  does this sound egotistical to you, or am i really evil for even thinking that there is something wrong with all this.. so do you see a connection with " why god has allowed wickedness, and the issue of his universal soverienty"..

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  Dagney

  Ah, yes. The issue of universal sovereignty. Like almighty God himself has to prove anything to anyone! Just imagine if our governments and judicial systems ran things the same way.

  Why is it that all of humankind must suffer for millenniums just because a woman, who was perfect, spoke to a serpent (like this happened all the time) and was coerced into eating a fruit. Makes no sense. Why not give us all the same chance Eve had instead of allowing billions of humans to suffer needlessly because of her.

  Ditto. No issue. It's in the minds of JW's planted by decades of propaganda.

  This is exactly why I can't buy any of it.
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  Did The Watchtower Society Foster A Poor Man’s Attitude?

  by The wanderer in

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  <!-- .style1 { font-size: 16px; font-family: arial; color: #009933; } .style2 { font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; } --> did the watchtower society foster a poor mans attitude?heard throughout the assembly, was the drone from the podium .

  brothers, beware of the snare of materialism because everything .

  in this world, the desire of the eyes and the desire of the flesh do .

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  Dagney

  Absof**kinglutely.
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  Please Share a few of Your All-Time Favorite Movies

  by flipper in

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  thought this would be interesting.

  easy subject.

  personally i have a few.

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  Dagney

  Casablanca, To Kill a Mockingbird,Dirty Dancing,Arthur,Wizard of Oz

  Vertigo, North By Northwest, Rear Window and anything else Hitchcock

  Shakespeare in Love, Love Actually,You've Got Mail, Godfather, Goodfellows

  All Austin Powers

  All Monty Python

  Elizabeth (new and old one with Bette Davis)

  Pretty much anything Johnny Depp

  Best Years of Our Lives

  As I keep reading others posts it reminds me of more movies. I need to check my stash.
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  LIFE IS GOOD!

  by Dansk in

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  what the heck.

  i'm sitting here with idle time.

  ok, so what's so great about that?

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  Dagney

  Dansk,

  Thank you for your touching post. Congratulations on your restored health both physically and spiritually.

  JWD family,

  This is a wonderful place. I am sort of the "new kid in school" here, but it brings me much comfort to know you are all here, and so supportive of each other. Even though I don't know you, I do feel by what I've seen, if I asked for some help, you would be there. What a great feeling.

  Life IS good!!!
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  E-watchman says Ray Franz is 'animalistic' LOL!

  by yaddayadda in

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  in a critique of 'captives of a concept', robert king accuses anyone who can't get past all of the watchtower society's 'obstacles' as animalistic and lacking spirituality, including don cameron and ray franz.

  it's mindblowing how this bloke can consistently call the watchtower leaders liars, blind, false prophets, dishing up vomitous things, etc, yet continue to preach that they are still a 'faithful steward' uniquely appointed by christ.

  so, while it is true that jehovahs witnesses have not come to know the judgment of jehovah, cameron is similarly captive to a concept; and hence, ignorant of jehovahs judgment.

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  Dagney

  e-watchman is an idiot.
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  DC IN Long Beach

  by sspo in

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  does anyone know if there is a dc next week or in july in long beach ca.. thanks.

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  Dagney

  Well, I can say one thing, they are "down" one convention. There used to be 13 each summer, now there are 12.

  Thank god.
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  Life lost

  by Phil in

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  i have previously posted on the subject of finding people who could help me get some testimonials from experienced jws who have been shunned by friends and family.

  this was my way of getting my daughter to wake up to the realities of what is going on with the organization she is associated with.

  much to my sadness, i have been notified by her husband that she died this morning of lung cancer.

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  Dagney

  Oh my, I am so very very sorry.

  I wish you strength for the journey.
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  What Is Your View Toward Religions & "Religious" People?

  by minimus in

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  my take on religions in general is that they all either give hope or some type of contentment for the person who takes their religion seriously.

  if they're good, they go to heaven or to some better condition.

  some religions are more radical than others and these types, i stay away from.. regarding those that are very religious, i'm generalizing here, but i think most of them are extremists in one way or another.

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  Dagney

  Being raised a JW, I figure I have it in the bank...forever....and ever.

  How do you look at religions now that you are out of a cult?

  I feel like Madonna after her "spiritual journey" and search through many religions. She said finally, "They are all the same."

  Do "religious'' people positively or negatively affect you?

  Now 5 years out of the borg, I have evolved through different feelings on this. I don't feel like they affect me any way. I'm not sure if I'm in denial or what. I seem to be remarkably numb to them. I have almost no feeling even when attending a memorial service for a beloved sister. (Maybe it was the crappy outline talk I had to distance myself from.) But...I was moved when visiting cathedrals in Europe a few months ago.

  What is happening to me?