Posts by Dagney

WTBS is a corporation, a machine. It's purpose is to stay in existence. Any perception that it is anything else is a delusion. It will find a way to exist no matter the cost, no matter what it does to its followers. They arrogantly call the shots, and their faithful CO/DO/fulltime footmen, many who have no other options for another life, follow their orders.

Amazing. I hope to find a way to share this.

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Menlo Park Kingdom Hall 3

by Juan Viejo2 in

for those of you that have been following the ongoing story of the forced take over of the menlo park, california kingdom hall, please go to:.

http://ex-jw.com/fear-and-loathing-in-menlo-park.

i'm sorry, the article is still a little rough and still needs a lot of editing, but i wanted to get it up by today at the latest.

Dagney

Fascinating.

I read Mad Sweeney's blog. Wow.

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Kingdom Hall remodel - scam

by Dagney in

jw
friends

i was wondering from any here in the know, does it seem like there is a lot of "remodels" going on?.

in the last week i had the occasion to talk with two jw's in different halls, about 10 miles apart.

they both are undergoing major remodels.

Dagney

Annnd another thing.

My JW gf was complaining last night about how demanding the brothers are of her husbands time. He's strong, capable and a general contractor. He has his own job/commitments that they expect him to make secondary. He feels torn/pulled from both ends, tired, mom in the hospital, everybody is p****d. No happifying anywhere.

Again, my biggest complaint about this "organization" is they could just give a s**t about the flock. So let's just add another facet to the "sacred service" and keep the brothers even busier with this worthy "cause" (scam) of cyclical KH remodels. Then they will have even less time to question, think, take care of their own.

That is the bigger royal scam.

(ok I have to work now.)

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Kingdom Hall remodel - scam

by Dagney in

jw
friends

i was wondering from any here in the know, does it seem like there is a lot of "remodels" going on?.

in the last week i had the occasion to talk with two jw's in different halls, about 10 miles apart.

they both are undergoing major remodels.

Dagney

The big eye opener for me was my old hall's first remodel. The society told the brothers to get 3 competing bids for the work. The society took THE HIGHEST bid, and that is what they charged our congo for the remodel. The brothers were SHOCKED. Even though our territory was in a well to do beach community, our hall was VERY conservative in the way it was run. They were not petty as far as money goes, just conservative.

Since it was their first remodel, they were naive about the way the WTBS did business. We went for years and years and years with very humble surroundings compared with almost any other hall. Old drapes behind the stage, the bathrooms looked like diner/cafe restrooms, hard cold tan folding chairs in the B school...I guess it looked like it was in a 50's time warp. But the brothers did not feel it was really necessary to burden the congregation with debt; it was good enough with only one congo in attendance.

So actually, the remodel 10 years ago was deserved. But now, AGAIN? Couldn't they just replace carpet and repaint, replace some hardware? But a complete reconfiguration of the hall area moving the stage and seats? Really? REALLY??

That is interesting about the CO being the driving force of these remodels. Makes sense.

@ Flipper: (hi there!! :-))))) I remember. We have the same connection. Mine is soooooooooooooooo busy in the RBC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOLOL. **sigh**

@designs: remember our hall looked the same as it looked when you went there, not even as fancy as the one up the street! Oh gosh, those were the days...good and bad eh? The picnics were good. ;-)

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Ridiculous Memorial Invitation!

by PrincessCynic in

has anyone seen this year's memorial invitation?

maybe someone could post a picture.. on the front is a question to the householder, 'how do you view jesus?'.

then it gives multiple choices with accompanying pictues: .

Dagney

My invitation came via email out of the blue. It said "the 'Big Show' is April 5th. lol

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Kingdom Hall remodel - scam

by Dagney in

jw
friends

i was wondering from any here in the know, does it seem like there is a lot of "remodels" going on?.

in the last week i had the occasion to talk with two jw's in different halls, about 10 miles apart.

they both are undergoing major remodels.

Dagney

And another thing, if we are "soooooo close" to the end, wouldn't that money be better spent elsewhere? I supposed that is what is bugging me.

Burdening the congo with more debt they can ill afford p****s me off. In the past KH's performed just needed upkeep, painting, carpet etc to keep it fresh, and the WTBS funds were wrapped up in the printing company. Now that is gone is this an investment tool for them to keep the interest $$$ coming?

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Kingdom Hall remodel - scam

by Dagney in

jw
friends

i was wondering from any here in the know, does it seem like there is a lot of "remodels" going on?.

in the last week i had the occasion to talk with two jw's in different halls, about 10 miles apart.

they both are undergoing major remodels.

Dagney

I was wondering from any here in the know, does it seem like there is a lot of "remodels" going on?

In the last week I had the occasion to talk with two JW's in different halls, about 10 miles apart. They both are undergoing major remodels. One is in a low income neighborhood, with people that can ill afford the expensive of the remodel. Last time I was in that hall was about 5 years ago.

The other one is my old hall which was completely redone just before I left, about 10 ears ago and I participated. I used to stop by in the evening to have a beer with security on the way home. NOw I heard last night it is going through another remodel, changing the stage back to where it was before etc.

The reason I ask is my old hall was a former church, the building build in 1920's, and for many reasons, even though the congo could afford it, they choose not to remodel. When we had the first remodel about 10 years ago, my friends (brothers/elders) were appalled at the scam that was being forced on them regarding the cost of the construction charged by the society but performed by volunteer work. It was another straw for me regarding the ethics of the WTBS.

I'm curious what others think here about the RBC work. Are remodels being forced by them? Does it seem like a money making scam for corporate (WTBS), or am I off base?

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Tomorrow is a big day for me

by coffee_black in

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friends

i will be 60 tomorrow.

on the one hand, it's just a number.

on the other hand, it's a big number.... .

Dagney

On the one hand, it's just a number. On the other hand, it's a BIG number...

That's how I feel!!

Happy Birthday! You are looking maarvelous!

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Is Biblical Morality Situational, Based Upon the Arbitrary Whims of Yahweh?

by leavingwt in

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friends

is biblical morality situational, based upon the arbitrary whims of yahweh?

murder is wrong... if god orders it however, then murder is right, and failing to murder is a sin.. .

exodus 20:13 versus 1 samuel 15:1, 7-11. .

Dagney

Well done LWT! Thank you for putting in writing what has been bouncing around in my head. (I always say it sucked to be born a Canaanite. You didn't have a chance with the almighty "God is Love" creator!)

I said the jist of your post to my PO/COBE/elder brother. That for every scripture you quote to spank a person for a behaviour, I can find another one that allows/approves in another circumstance. He did not disagree.