I already said the the sinner's prayer, you only have to say it once, right? I'm good.
Posts by Dagney
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51If ARMAGEDDON Came, Would YOU Repent?
by Cold Steel inthe day finally comes.
you get up one day with the nagging feeling that it's going to be different.
you get dressed, get in the car, then notice how dark the weather's getting.
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What if a brother ask you if the big A comes, would YOU repent?
by Iamallcool inhow would you answer him?
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Dagney
I'd might tell him "Of course!" knowing full well it would never happen and perhaps getting the guy off my back.
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Was the TM School really any good ?
by Phizzy inmany of us were members of the theocratic ministry school for many years.
some say it helped them with public speaking, and maybe it did for some.. but, when you look back at the quality of student it turned out, was it really any good ?.
most elders are crap public speakers, most r&f bros are crap at reading aloud, most jw's are crap at selling their religion at the door, most jw's have scant real knowledge of the bible.. there are reasons for this, quite often the tms overeer hasn't a clue how to teach a person to progress.
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Dagney
I would say on paper, the idea was pretty good, and I think overall, if you use it they way you would any opportunity to learn, you can certainly improve using the guidebook.
From what I understand the TMS Overseer is a newboy position because it took so much work, the body couldn't wait to pass it off to the new appointee. Unfortunately, it was not the right position for some, and the congregation suffered for it.
In the big picture, if as kids we were encouraged to participate in school activities, clubs debate teams...I think most of us kids would have benefited more than a 5min presentation in the TMS. When I quit the school I told the overseer "I graduated."
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Anyone else an Ex Bethel "volunteer"
by BackseatDevil ini was wondering if there were any other ex-bethelites on here.
i personally regularly went for temporary work at brooklyn then was assigned to the farm for a year and a half.
it was... one of the most bizaare experiences of my life.. so i wrote it all down (finally, after some 15 years) so i won't bore anyone on here with the details of the story - because bethel doesn't show up until chapter 15... and for you straight folks, it gets a bit gay in two places... but nothing gross.
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Dagney
The whole place was sort of depressing, not like the old days. Before everybody was chatty and mildly interested in visitors. That time it was like they all were dodging the swinging blade and none to happy about it, understandably.
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Anyone else an Ex Bethel "volunteer"
by BackseatDevil ini was wondering if there were any other ex-bethelites on here.
i personally regularly went for temporary work at brooklyn then was assigned to the farm for a year and a half.
it was... one of the most bizaare experiences of my life.. so i wrote it all down (finally, after some 15 years) so i won't bore anyone on here with the details of the story - because bethel doesn't show up until chapter 15... and for you straight folks, it gets a bit gay in two places... but nothing gross.
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Dagney
Well that's a handsome couple, and a great name to boot.
I was there last in 2005, and the receptionist 124 bldg looked just like him. I over heard him talking to another worker while we were waiting for transportation, and they both were very disgruntled. The guy behind the desk said something like, "if you would have told me I'd be sitting here behind this desk 25 year down the road, I would have said you were crazy. But here I am."
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Anyone else an Ex Bethel "volunteer"
by BackseatDevil ini was wondering if there were any other ex-bethelites on here.
i personally regularly went for temporary work at brooklyn then was assigned to the farm for a year and a half.
it was... one of the most bizaare experiences of my life.. so i wrote it all down (finally, after some 15 years) so i won't bore anyone on here with the details of the story - because bethel doesn't show up until chapter 15... and for you straight folks, it gets a bit gay in two places... but nothing gross.
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Dagney
(waves to darth) Do you guys remember an underground cartoon called "Haircuts of the Bible?" It had excerpts of WT pub headshots.
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Anyone else an Ex Bethel "volunteer"
by BackseatDevil ini was wondering if there were any other ex-bethelites on here.
i personally regularly went for temporary work at brooklyn then was assigned to the farm for a year and a half.
it was... one of the most bizaare experiences of my life.. so i wrote it all down (finally, after some 15 years) so i won't bore anyone on here with the details of the story - because bethel doesn't show up until chapter 15... and for you straight folks, it gets a bit gay in two places... but nothing gross.
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Dagney
Did any of you guys hear a story about a Bethelite taking a WT car out at night to show some visiting sisters the city and then getting in an accident?
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When You Were A Little Kid, What Did Your Mother Say To Get You To Eat Your Vegetables?
by LoisLane looking for Superman ini hated peas.
my mom would say, "the kids in china are starving.
eat your peas.
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Dagney
My arch nemesis was cooked carrots. My mom, bless her, cooked them in orange juice to make them not as sweet and more palatable to me. But I pretty much hated them. Her line, "what are you going to do in 'the persecution' TM , and we are in prison and all you have to eat is cooked carrots!" Me: "I'LL EAT THEM THEN!" BTW, I didn't get by with it. I had to at the very least eat a bite.
It occurs to me, now, how strange that is to hear as a little kid...that you are going to prison...at any time.
I also was reminded just last month by my JW SIL how stubborn I was as a kid because I refused to eat my spinach one night and I had to sit alone with it cold in the dining room while everybody else was in the livingroom watching The Beverly Hillbillies. 50 years later and I'm still hearing about it. Family forgets nothing.
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How much have you changed as a person ?
by Phizzy ini was a born-in, and in for over five decades.
in the comparatively short time since leaving the wt for good, for good in both senses !
, i feel i have become a very different person, in quite radical ways.. how do you feel you have changed ?.
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Dagney
That's a very good question.
Although I'm incredibly happy I left WT, and grateful every day for the freedom and the new friends I've found, there are some changes I'm not crazy about. With the loss of 95% of everybody I ever knew, I find myself numb in areas and to people I would not have expected...just really no feeling. I know it must be an involuntary defense mechanism, but it surprises me. I also have heard I am more serious, which bothers me...and I want to work on that.
It's like double whammy....absolute elation of knowing TTATT, then incredilble loss of everything familiar. It's a little hard to make each day count like we are supposed to, but I'm working on it.
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Here's what I learned at our DC.....
by sir82 inwhen people say "armageddon may come, but not in my lifetime", that is a "satanic inspired error".. how do you overcome it?.
why, looking a it that way, adam's rebellion was less than a week ago!
jesus was here on earth just the day before yesterday!
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Dagney
Man, those buzz words...
One thing we can say, they are consistent with their material. I'm having a deja vu of the afternoon session and the echo through the arena with these statements. {{{shiver}}}