Posts by Dagney

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Back again

by Lostandfound in

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been absent for more than 10 years as i have had surgery sand radiation etc for brain tumour.

was in icu for 6 months and lost hearing in one ear, most of sight and physical disabilities.

was a member then just before simon emigrated to us, he had lived quite near me in uk.

Dagney

Oh my goodness...what you have been through! Welcome back and wish you continued progress.

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Can somebody explain the songs and songbook obsession?

by careful in

i've been out a while and have only put in a rare appearance at a memorial or brief visit at a convention/assembly to keep people off my back, so i haven't kept up on the songbook.

but one thing i've noticed that the org.

has been doing that they never did when i was in is all these "supplemental songs" that keep appearing.

Oh my goodness! I went to a KH memorial last weekend, first time back in a hall since my mom's memorial 6 years ago. Instead of the familiar refrain from the now obsolete book, there was a new song that was being sung. I KID YOU NOT...nobody knew the song, they were mumbling the words the best they could and as bad as I was, the song was TERRIBLE, no musicality or flow. What. A. Joke.

So do you think it's Splane? Could he be the one taking out the old standards and mandating his own creations?

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How do you overcome SHUNNING after leaving the organization and move on?

by suavojr in

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it amazes me how many of you have left it all behind, including family, brothers and sisters, friends and a full network of people.

i for one cannot find the courage to breakaway, and this causes me great anxiety and stress.

it eats me alive to think that if i open my mouth everyone i know will simply turn their back on me.

Dagney

Shunning is dehumanizing. In a moment of clarity it struck me that I didn't want to be associated with a group that treated their fellow human beings that way. At the end of my life, I want to look back and be proud of who I was and how I lived. When I think about who I am and not who JW's want me to be, it becomes an amazingly simple choice.

That doesn't mean I don't feel sad at times or that it is easy. I just don't want to be a aligned with those who do that to people. It's awful. Be true to yourself and do what is right for you. That my friend is the real life.

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2016 CA videos

by wifibandit in

download links (get 'em while they're hot!).

imitate jehovah-- morning.

imitate jehovah -- afternoon.

Dagney

Wow. I skipped around these a bit. So familiar and yet seems so dreary!!! The stage, the podium...worse than I remember. Odd to see the phone and tablets...I guess it's to show you don't have to know anything really...just be able to research on jw.org.

My heart sinks a bit; most "seem" nice, deluded, wanting to do good. In reality, they are quite cruel in their stand for this religion. {{shiver}}

A "sister" who stayed good friends with me died last week from cancer, and I'm gutted. This Saturday I'm going back to the hall for the memorial. I'm trying to prepare myself for it.

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Australian Royal Commission Findings released

by Mephis in

will just post the general findings by counsel for the commission (angus stewart) - case specific ones are prior to them.

in short, absolutely damning.. not been through every submission myself yet.

available for download here: http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.aspx.

Dagney

Bumping to read later. Scanned through it quickly...amazing. Just amazing.

They look really bad on paper. YAY!!

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Yeah, my parents plan to will everything to this parasitic organization and forsake their seed

by Phaedra in

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yeah, they'll leave it all, their home, savings, etc.. never mind helping out their struggling children who never had a chance.. fuck this organization and everything it stands for when its members think god will favor them more by willing everything to a corporation instead of their own struggling seed..

Dagney

As usual the WTBS picks and chooses the scriptures the want to beat the flock with. It is the scriptural counsel to provide inheritance to your own family.

I'm sorry Phaedra. It awful. My mother did the same, thinking she was doing something wonderful. It's so frustrating.

We hear you Phaedra.

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Are there any ex-missionaries here??

by fulano in

i have been a missionary in the dominican republic for almost 10 years and i was wondering if there were any ex-missionaries on this forum.. i am back in my country now for 3 years and totally inactive.. what i noticed in those missionary-years was the lack of spiritual interest among the missionaries.. discussions were about rooms, cars and greater responsibilities, the bad territory.

and the local c.o.s and d.os.. was this only in the dr or are there other experiences??.

ere other experiences?

Dagney

Don't know, could be. They were reg pioneers and went where it was warm half the year to pioneer. There were a bunch of them but was only close to two of them.

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Newly released 911 photos

by purplesofa in

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(cnn) -- newly released photographs show what a damaged world trade center tower and its collapse looked like from a new york police department helicopter as it flew nearby on september 11, 2001, in new york.. the aerial photos were obtained by abc news after it filed a freedom of information act request last year with the national institute of standards and technology, which had collected the images for its investigation into the towers' collapse.. a couple of the images show one of the twin towers burning after a hijacked airplane had flown into it.

others show it collapsing, and the rest show the clouds of debris and dust spreading below after the towers crumbled.. each of the 12 images offers a rare look at what the devastation looked like from above.. .

http://www.cnn.com/2010/us/02/10/world.trade.center.aerial/index.html.

Dagney

I miss Leo.

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Are there any ex-missionaries here??

by fulano in

i have been a missionary in the dominican republic for almost 10 years and i was wondering if there were any ex-missionaries on this forum.. i am back in my country now for 3 years and totally inactive.. what i noticed in those missionary-years was the lack of spiritual interest among the missionaries.. discussions were about rooms, cars and greater responsibilities, the bad territory.

and the local c.o.s and d.os.. was this only in the dr or are there other experiences??.

ere other experiences?

Dagney

I just looked at his FB page and Steve Lett via video dedicated an expansion and remodel of the Bethel home in August 2015. Business as usual I guess.

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Are there any ex-missionaries here??

by fulano in

i have been a missionary in the dominican republic for almost 10 years and i was wondering if there were any ex-missionaries on this forum.. i am back in my country now for 3 years and totally inactive.. what i noticed in those missionary-years was the lack of spiritual interest among the missionaries.. discussions were about rooms, cars and greater responsibilities, the bad territory.

and the local c.o.s and d.os.. was this only in the dr or are there other experiences??.

ere other experiences?

Dagney

Yes that's him. They got to live in the new Bethel home. Then they went to Azua. Or maybe it's vice versa, not sure now about the timeline anymore. Very very nice guy. We had very frank, honest convos about the issues with the WT and congregations. I was pretty done after the 1995 generation change. The wife used to be a good friend of mine before marrying. We had a lot of Swedes comes over to visit in the 80's.

I think of them whenever I hear about these reductions at the branches.