Dagney

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  Are they either leaving or going full on 'cult mode'? No quarter.

  by punkofnice in

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  it might just be me imagining things.. i hear things from my jw spies.. from all that's being said, it seems to me that the rank and file(tm), are either waking up to the scam and fading/leaving.

  they are going full on 'cult mode' and acting like 'spiritual police'.. is it just me and my imagination?

  have others noticed this?.

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  Dagney

  I am wondering my own self what the sentiment is in the congregations. A few dear friends have received the "dreaded text message," one the very evening of the RC, terminating already minimal contact.

  This week I ran into what was my very best and closest friend when I was in. Haven't seen them in 9 years, last time was at a funeral of one of my nonJW relatives...huge controversy, groups of JW's standing outside the community hall door refusing to enter as an accused "apostate" gave the memorial talk. Fun times. Our visit lasted about an hour and felt like old times. Statements of wanting to get together soon were made...I don't think they have had their RC yet. They seem to be living the life they want, but still go to church.

  I don't think the message from the videos will carry the weight they want with the majority. Some need this message to tell them how to think every minute.

  What a waste of precious time.
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  Hi everyone, just signed up here

  by samj in

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  hi, i just signed up.

  i'm 35, i've been baptized 20 years, married 15 years.

  it seems like the wife and i are going in opposite directions spiritually.

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  Dagney

  Hi samj! Welcome! Nice to have you here.
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  £1 million pound fine

  by pepperheart in

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  hi a court in the uk in loughborough have fined the jws over £1 million pounds for the court costs for a child abuse case in loughborough in the east midlands..

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  Wowza.
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  " you will never grow old..."

  by mrquik in

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  " you will never grow old..." a more grievous lie is hard to imagine.

  i heard this one first in 1957. i was 6. my mother had just converted.

  i heard it many times after that.

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  Oh I remember it like it was only yesterday...

  My mom giddily telling me, "Just think you will never grow old!"

  Fast forward about 30 years, mom was 87 or so I think, and out of the blue she just looked at me and said, "I'm not going to make it." She lived another 11 years, and she was right about that but wrong about the other. I'm old now.

  Thanks mom.
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  How the Bethel family responded to the bethel layoffs (profanity warning ***)

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  i think we can say many of those laid off no longer trust the governing body because of being lied to repeatedly over so many things.

  things are getting very explosive at the governing body's home location kind of ties right in with being moved to a seriously pcp contamined chemical dump site, in fact bad karma has come to rest where ever these stupid lying clowns go.

  these gbs are a bunch of real ass holes and they treat the faithful shit and expect them to just take it like a bunch of dummy drones.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8kuldpksze.

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  Totally appropriate reactions. I'm mad as hell and I'm not a Bethelite!

  I hope more and more see the video.

  I was on a Bethel tour (long story) in 2007. While we were waiting for our ride to the airport, a very disgruntled 20+ year front desk guy was grumbling with a few other workers about the same. Here it is almost 10 years later from then!
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  Latest UPDATE UK Charity Commission investigation

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  good afternoon,.

  i am writing to give you a quick update about our ongoing statutory inquiries into safeguarding and charities linked to jehovah’s witnesses.. as you may know, one of our inquiries is into watch tower bible and tract society of britain.

  we opened this inquiry in 2014. watch tower then initiated what turned out to be protracted litigation against us.

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  sniff.

  This just made my day!! Thank you for posting!
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  Sixty People Murdered in Nice Terror Attack

  by cofty in

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  crowds celebrating bastille day in nice, france have been targeted by a terrorist driving a truck.. initial reports of 60 dead and 100 injured.. i am losing track of how many similar attacks there have been in europe in recently..

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  I Nice.
  
  
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  Kids continue to leave in droves - so what is the organization's grand plan? This

  by sir82 in

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  jws have one of the worst, if not the worst, retention rates among their kids.

  i've seen numbers from 65% to 88% who leave, never to return.. you'd think this would be a priority amongst the leadership, right?

  where do tomorrow's leaders come from, if the vast majority of kids leave the organization?

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  Dagney

  Good discussion.

  I'm amazed at the time and effort the WBTS has put forth in their pixar-like videos for kids. As has been mentioned, as cute and fluffy as they are, the message is divisive, scary and mean. If kids watch any secular programs, the message is tolerance and love which I think is the message we are instinctively attracted to. The WBTS is a master at doublespeak and mixed messages and I think kids will feel it just like we all did. I haven't met one born-in exJW that got behind the destruction depicted by all those scary pictures we were raised with. Kids, bicycles, dogs falling down crevices at god's great war...scary ladies sitting on scarlet red dragons...it didn't seem "right."

  If they wanted to retention, HQ would have to care more about the flock than the corporation. They never have and they never will.
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  New Here ... Just woke up

  by Sevan in

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  hey all, .

  this is my first post.

  i haven't been out in service or to a meeting in over a month.. i realize now that i've been having serious questions for years and many articles and talks have greatly disturbed me over the years.

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  Dagney

  Welcome! Glad you found us!

  
  
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  Stem cells - Watchtower position

  by Dagney in

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  2. medical

  does anyone know the wt's position on medical treatment using stem cells?

  i don't even know how to go about finding out this information.

  if anyone could tell me where to look or what the current position is by the society, i am most appreciative.. i would like to recommend the treatment to a jw relative, but don't want to get involved in an argument if it is forbidden.

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  Dagney

  OrphanCrow, I sure remember the boom when the AIDS epidemic hit. My doctor even told me, "well, I guess you guys had it right!" In my smug arrogance at the time, I agreed. sigh

  Sooooo, the co-worker who had the treatment came back to work today. She told her JW brother about the treatment because his wife has RA. I think he might have called Bethel because my coworker said "he checked with the society and it is up to his own counsel." Coworker doesn't know to use the word "society"; she is 100% Catholic and teaches catechism.