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  Article Telegraph UK - Religious sects

  by Dagney in

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  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11257637/religious-sect-whats-it-like-to-grow-up-in-one.html .

  article sent to me by a friend in the uk.. yep..

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  Dagney

  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11257637/Religious-sect-whats-it-like-to-grow-up-in-one.html
  

  Article sent to me by a friend in the UK.

  Yep.
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  How successful are others at getting ex-dubs together?

  by dubstepped in

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  for my first shunniversary i reached out to the local ex-dubs that i know.

  i invited 11 total to join me in a little get together at a local restaurant, then back to my house to hang out.

  one friend asked if he could invite others, and i encouraged him, and all, to do so.

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  It's a bit like herding cats. It just depends on the individuals and their needs, frankly.

  I joined here about 10 years ago, and apostafests were happening. There was a large one happening in Toronto, and it worked out I could add the stop to a trip I was planning to visit my elderly mother and "elder" brother and family, yeah...that happened. Anyway, it was huge and people came from all over, probably I was the furthest. About 9 months later Mr Flipper arranged the first Tahoe fest, which I went to as well. I am attached to all the people I have met, our world's collided at a time when we needed something, if just to talk with someone else who understood what we were going through. I'm amazed at the new ones that just show up in Tahoe not knowing anybody. Again, there is a need that motivates the effort.

  Oh I just remembered I posted on here that I was visiting Tucson about 8 years ago, and several people responded to meet up, and a handful drove from Phoenix, I was very touched. One made it to the restaurant and got cold feet and was ready to walk out, then somebody called to them and they joined....we are friends to this day. A need again.

  Based on the society's reports, there are tens of thousands of exJWs everywhere, and the majority just really do want to leave it behind and handle the issues as they come. And it is a painful memory, the former life as a dub, one you don't wish to keep reliving.

  So my point...it really depends on timing and the individuals. It's like making friends...sometimes you hit it off with someone, and sometimes you feel like you are on a desert island. It's a numbers game...you never know when someone will see a meetup posting and want to reach out. Seriously, ya just never really know.

  But...come to Tahoe! You can camp or stay in a hotel. I promise, you will not be disappointed. Just wonderful people that survived a cult.
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  fading/holidays

  by Drifting Away in

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  2. friends

  so for those that are fading, i have been fading for almost 6 months now.

  havent been to a meeting, assembly, service, etc.

  i no longer believe it is the truth.. how long did you wait before celebrating holidays, if in fact you are even celebrating them.

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  I worked into it slowly and it felt weird for a looong time. My birthday here at work still makes me anxious, we are not used to be fussed over. Even though I know it is fun and they like to make a big deal, and I like to do the same for others, Jiminy-christmas...it's hard to accept the attention after how we were raised.

  I secretly loved the winter holidays years before I left...I like shiny sparkly things and tink-ly music. I started by buying calendars for the staff probably two years after I left. Now I'm in the full swing of things and have holiday doo dads all around. A day of reckoning will come sometime with my brother who is an COBE/elder. But he lives out of town and what will happen I think is that he will be disappointed. And there is no resolving that...either you get it or you don't.

  I was lucky that a few of us who met here on the board about the same time started stumbling together on our first Christmases and holidays. We got to enjoy it and also talk about our feelings. We all like shiny sparkly things. In fact one year, a couple from here, Aude Sapere and I went to a Christmas evening celebration at a Unitarian church...don't even know what it is called. Then we had a late dinner after.

  So my suggestion is to do what you like...it is weird at first, but if you enjoy it...it is lovely to celebrate everything. Yes, holidays are commercial, but if you enjoy the process...it doesn't matter. If you are uncomfortable or it's not your thing...just don't worry about it. You are free now.
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  My sources say Jr brown has died

  by poopie in

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  end of era.

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  Not one of my faves. Our hall used to bring him out for memorial talks. He had his own groupies. Our hall had to issue tickets to the congregation so we could attend our own meetings in our own hall because so many groupies followed this guy.

  And don't forget his famous response "Jehovah's Witnesses LOOOOVE their country." I don't remember what the question that was put forth to him...but he was a PR tap dancer all the way.
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  Fluff: Any "Mr. Robot" watchers?

  by Dagney in

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  so many good shows these days.

  however mr. robot is really well done and interesting.

  wondering if anybody else has been watching.

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  It is dark to be sure Anders...but it is quite smart and different from most everything out there. I am the only one in the universe I'm sure who hasn't followed the Walking Dead...at least the only one in my family.

  bikerchic...you must see the first season in order to know what the heck is going on. You will be lost otherwise. It is part of Amazon Prime. You can't help but like Elliott.
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  Fluff: Any "Mr. Robot" watchers?

  by Dagney in

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  so many good shows these days.

  however mr. robot is really well done and interesting.

  wondering if anybody else has been watching.

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  So many good shows these days. However Mr. Robot is really well done and interesting. Wondering if anybody else has been watching.
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  Why is it so hurtful to be shunned? Why object to it?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it seems like many feel hurt or saddened by the practice of shunning by witnesses.. yes, when ones who we were close to, perhaps family or ones we thought were close friends choose to follow the warped directions of the society, it may seem hurtful.. but really, our reaction is up to us.

  the fact is, these ones have shown that in reality, their love for us was never real or genuine.

  no, those relationships were superficial and lacking in substance.

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  Our logical/rational mind courageously says "screw them" to the loved ones that shun us. And it is true, they do not deserve our love and loyalty when they cannot give the same.

  But...as it has been mentioned, we have feelings and we all want to be liked/loved...not at any cost of course, but we do. We are human. It's inhuman to cut off affection for the reasons the WT gives.
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  Does it not dawn on the cart witnesses?

  by jambon1 in

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  2. friends

  i sat in town recently, right in the window of a nice wee pub.

  within minutes i realised that i had a perfect view of a jw cart and the two ridiculously dressed jw's (they have absolutely no individuality at all.

  what's more, they all look like they're going to a funeral).

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  They brilliantly found out a way to keep the pioneers and specials in the work! They need the hours of those guys to keep up the averages, and they've lowered even the required hours! They can keep their titles, and believe me, those titles mean a lot to them, sadly, and not have to break a sweat.

  The WBTS knows the D2D work in most areas is over. I have heard over and over many, including elders, show up for MFFS, then leave the area and go to breakfast. Elders can count the time as shepherding, and the others turn in what they want..all is well. There is no need for D2D.

  It was a great idea to make this "new arrangement." They don't know, (and prob don't care), how ridiculous it looks to us as observers, and to the public who care even less than we do.

  Still amazing considering where we all came from in this organization.
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  Found Another Medieval Coin This Evening

  by cofty in

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  2. physical

  i got in an hour metal detecting this evening and found this almost immediately.. it is a silver penny of henry ii minted in london by "davi" between 1180 and 1189. this adds a king i didn't have in my collection.

  i now have the series of henry ii - john - henry iii - edward i - edward ii - edward iii.. i now need richard the lionheart to fill in the gap.

  he was the brother of john and reigned after the death of henry ii.

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  Awesome!
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  CNN doc 'Holy Hell'

  by Worldling9 in

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  i just saw the documentary 'holy hell' on cnn, about a cult called buddhafield.

  it was a small group but has existed since the 80s and still has a few followers.

  classic cult stuff, much of which i found eerily familiar.

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  Dagney

  Mr. Flipper, did you see how many stayed! I guess life in the real world is too much for them. They would rather go to the beach every day and play. Hey wait! I would too!!

  Man that guy is so creepy. He got a good scam going.