Posts by Dagney

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Did You Think Jehovah’s Witnesses Were Typically “Racists”?

by minimus in

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friends

i was a jw from infancy.

we had a melting pot type of congregation.

i grew up with all types of witnesses , all with different backgrounds.

Dagney

Interesting thread. Growing up in Southern California in the 60's, everywhere including the KH was racially diverse. So I don't know anything different. Hispanics, Japanese, black, white made up grade school through high school and the congregation. As a kid we were all friends. It would be interesting to know if there was any racism felt.

I loved the fact as I would run into the older sisters at conventions as a 50+ year old, they would pull me to their chest and still call me "baby girl." But who knows what they and their husbands and kids went through with others at the hall...

I wish I could still talk to some of them, but being "out" makes it too complicated.

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Take a Moment and Think About How Awesome You Are

by Simon in

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friends

it's easy to get bogged down with life and think you're not getting ahead or progressing.

but regardless of where we think things may be going, pretty much everyone who's come through this site is an achiever who's done an amazing thing in one way or another even if they may not think about it.. so think about it!.

you got past and over your programming and indoctrination.

Dagney

Simon, I love your post.

We all do need to remember how hard and courageous it was to leave when we feel how stupid for staying in for so long, and of course, I am speaking to myself. I still beat myself up at times, especially when I am asked to tell my story.

Thank you Simon for the reminder.

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New building

by asp59 in

you think the new building addition to warwick ,that will house 1000 audiovisual and art production volunteers is a push to go online with the meetings?

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Dagney

I think it might be a deliberate designed distraction for the faithful in case they start hearing some unsavory press regarding the pedophile coverups. Emphasis on their seemingly relevant construction work could be meant as “exciting theocratic news” to divert attention from bad the bad news. Just a thought that popped up in my brain.

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The Great Tribulation must be at least 3 years away

by BourneIdentity in

since they’ve announced the dates for the next 3 memorials, no talk about this “may be our last one!”.

since they’ve announced the patterson construction project will take 3 years to complete.

let’s also not forget when they designed warwick, they spent money on expensive energy saving technology to save millions in the long run, years and decades in the future.

Dagney

I was wondering what was going on at Patterson. I just attended a memorial, and several couples said they put in their applications for Patterson. Ugh. Again, a perceived relevance that their efforts are important. Sigh.

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Need help in finding some information regarding the Adam and Eve tale.

by Tameria2001 in

i am finally at the point in my life i no longer believe in the tales of the bible.

my husband feels for the most part that it too is stuff made up.

there are just a few things that he wants to get cleared up, and one of those being the story of adam and eve.

Dagney

(I miss Leo.) Her topic referenced by Blondie occurred just about the time I dared to read this site. Her documentation had a profound effect on me.

I always had a problem with "the paradise" story. Did anyone else choke when you had to actually say "talking snake" out loud to someone?

I remember one discussion early on between a bible believer and another poster. I think the debate was about creation, and the believer was mocking evolution, something they knew nothing about, just spouting the WT verbiage. "How can you BELIEVE we came from nothing" sort of talk. The the poster said, "some people believe a talking snake is credible." Mike drop.

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How Long Did It Take To Finally Leave The Organization Once You Realized It Was Really Not The Truth?

by minimus in

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friends

it actually took me a few years to finally leave the organization so i was mentally out for a while before i simply stopped all meetings altogether.. how long did it take you to finally make the break?

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Dagney

^^^This. Absolutely. If you have questions or doubts, just pay more attention. Don't shove it down and make excuses for the corporation. They don't care about you. They make this stuff up to keep to control you.

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How Long Did It Take To Finally Leave The Organization Once You Realized It Was Really Not The Truth?

by minimus in

jw
friends

it actually took me a few years to finally leave the organization so i was mentally out for a while before i simply stopped all meetings altogether.. how long did it take you to finally make the break?

?.

Dagney

Too long. 20 years.

Edited to add: I had the "feeling" it was all BS at the end of the 70's, and talked myself into staying because of the "brotherhood", (yeah...right).

After the 1995 generation change, the feelings were confirmed it was BS, they were making it all up. 6 years later, during a meeting I just felt I didn't belong there, left and never went back. During those in between years I started paying closer attention to the Watchtower, and looking up scriptures quoted in context.

After leaving I read CoC, Penton's book and Carl's book, which basically confirmed everything I felt I already knew.

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Heidi Hall: Life after WTS Good read

by blondie in

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friends

https://religionnews.com/2019/09/26/finding-a-faith-that-is-stronger-than-death-or-my-familys-rejection/.

in my search, i left behind conditional, behavior-based love and traded it for the unconditional grace shown by a true family, whose bonds have nothing to do with dna.. and i’m dying grateful for that.. (heidi hall, who died sept. 25, 2019, at age 49, was a veteran journalist whose award-winning career took her from the standard democrat in sikeston, missouri, and the southeast missourian to the tampa tribune and the nashville tennessean before landing her at vanderbilt university’s public affairs office.

the views expressed in this commentary do not necessarily reflect those of religion news service.

Dagney

Thank you for the article Blondie.

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WTS Carts Have Competition

by blondie in

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friends

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/thefreethinker/2019/09/in-virginia-american-atheists-upstage-jehovahs-witnesses/.

according to american atheists, their organisation had received multiple complaints that the jws were proselytising outside various government facilities.. said aa’s virginia state director larry mendoza:.

we would rather that government property be free of religious speech altogether.

Dagney

This is great!

I am so sick of their faux "life saving work" AKA as "easy hours."

I've been around too many of em lately and I'm just sick of em...the phony "love" and phony "spirituality."

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Jehovah's Witnesses Came to My Neighborhood

by Juan Viejo2 in

for nearly two years i have not seen any jehovah's witnesses going door to door in my neighborhood.

that was not the case when my wife and i first moved here (north central oregon).

in fact, our neighborhood was visited at least once every 4 to 5 months - even in the coldest winter months.

Dagney

Another "sittin' around doin nuttin' but countin' time" story...

I posted a few years ago that I saw a canopy and a table with literature on the side of the road in Baja. We passed them coming and going into town, 6+ times a day. There were 4 people sitting at the table, chatting away. Not once over the 3 days did we see them talking to anybody other than themselves.

Pretty easy ticket to paradise I guess.