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  First Proper Chat With the JWs in Almost 11 Years

  by passwordprotected in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  since disassociating in october 2008, i've had little to no direct contact with the jws, apart from immediate family members (ie my parents).

  i've lived in my rented flat since may 2014 and haven't had a knock on the door in that whole time.

  until saturday morning.

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  Dagney

  Hi password! Well done.

  I too agree, if at all possible, to engage as you have done just to leave a thought they might not be able to get out of their minds.
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  Special meeting next month (February 2020)

  by Jofi_Wofo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it was announced today that we will have a special weekend meeting next month.

  it will be 3 hours long and will include some streamed content.. no explanation was given as to what the meeting will be about, only that it will be exciting and we will not want to miss it..

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  Dagney

  A "special" meeting for a "special" people.

  Rinse.

  Repeat.
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  Would You Ever Go Back To The Witnesses??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  every once in a while you hear people say they actually “miss” their old witness friends and or family.

  some would have even stayed in the organization if they became a bit more liberal and open minded.

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  Dagney

  Nope, not ever.

  {{{shiver}}}
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  Circus Assembly Jaw Dropper

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the co got on his hind legs for the public talk and repeated twice "tolerance promotes division".

  then backed it up by saying that if one group march for some right, another group will march for the opposite.. so jws are intolerant and proud of it.

  f@@@k me sideways.. may explain that the baptism tally was 0..

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  Dagney

  Boy the JW cult language just pushes all my buttons now that I'm out.

  The arrogance of the JW's, they think they are so special...that they have special knowledge of, well everything. All part of the control...but geez...they are so intolerant!
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  Cart Witnessing....They deserve the same ''cold shoulder''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is a man named jerry.

  on a public sidewalk, he asks attendees leaving a jehovah's witness convention in san diego a simple question, ''do jehovah's witnesses have the truth.

  not one person acknowledges him.

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  Dagney

  That picture is great...but...has anybody here actually seen any cart sitters deep in conversation or even engaging at all with any passerbys?

  I haven't.
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  Besides Everlasting Life What Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Offer To Anyone?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been thinking... why would anyone want to join the religion or actually stay in the organization.

  i understand that people don’t want to lose their loving family and dear friends so some stay in.

  but what does anyone really ever get because they are jehovah’s witnesses??.

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  Dagney

  It would be interesting to know from a recent convert what it was that drew them to the JW.

  I used to pray that I was thankful I was born in because I never would have believed it if I wasn't. sigh

  My mom said they answered everything from the Bible and that was the attraction to her. Of course we here all know differently, it's a patchwork hop and skip to come up with their dogma. But, there was a time it sort of made sense, all the hopping and skipping.
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  Generally Speaking Do You Support The Police?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know bad cops exist in many cities.

  i know some cops who aren’t “bad” but do have an attitude.

  however, i prefer to have law and order as opposed to chaos.

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  Dagney

  Absolutely!
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  Revised New Jerusalem Bible

  by Wonderment in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  following are three excerpts from wikipedia; liturgy.co.nz; & https://newworldtranslation.blogspot.com/2018/05/an-overview-of-revised-new-jerusalem.html hopefully, this will give you an idea of the latest translation effort of the jb.. wikipedia notes: the revised new jerusalem bible (rnjb) is an english translation of the bible published by darton, longman & todd.

  the new testament and the psalms,[1] were released in february 2018,[2] with the full bible released in july 2019.

  [3] it is a revision of the jerusalem bible and the new jerusalem bible done by the british biblical scholar and ampleforth abbey monk henry wansbrough.

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  Dagney

  I used the NJB exclusively the last few years at the meetings. It’s a great bible with timelines, and copious footnotes, and introductions and commentary so you could figure out what the heck was going on.
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  The real dividing line isn’t between apostates and apologists it’s between...

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  excellent observation from zizek about communist regimes: they didn’t care if people accepted the ideology or took it seriously, so long as people acted as if the ideology was true, that was the important thing.

  in fact the regimes were deeply suspicious people who took the ideology too seriously.

  people who took the ideology seriously were dangerous because they were prone to noticing the inconsistencies and flaws in the system.

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  Dagney

  OP is spot on Slim, and so well written.

  This:

  They don’t care about 1914 or the divine name or whatever else. They think the anointed 144,000/generation/partakers issues are a problem, but they figure that it will sort itself out in the end.

  The days of defending the "truth" are over for the R & F JW. They see inconsistencies but are thrilled to point all to jw.org and not have to ever explain a damn thing ever again. (2,520 year explanation comes to mind...) They just want to go to the hall, socialize with friends, travel and count time/pioneer by standing next to a cart.

  For those that have done extensive research and have maintained their JW belief system, I would say it's just a matter of faith. They choose to believe. Theologians have been debating the same word/issues for years and are wise enough to offer up a theory, because absolutes in history cannot truly be proven. Faith is what you need to follow a religion and its ever changing dogma.

  Thanks for posting Slim!
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  JWs reach new milestone - JW.org reaches 1,000 languages

  by Wonderment in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  below is the copied page found in jw.org from nov. 4, 2019:.

  the governing body is pleased to announce that a new milestone has been reached in our efforts to make disciples of people of all the nations.

  jw.org now has articles, videos, and audio content available in 1,000 languages, including 100 sign languages..

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  Dagney

  They are trying hard to keep the faithful believing this "life saving" work is relevant. It's like their "wow we are so special we now translate into 1,000 languages" fact as they stand idly by their literature trolley.

  Busy work with little results, thankfully.