Posts by Dagney

I'm in the same place as you...trying to make some sense out of life and death. Sometimes I can, and sometimes I can't, as in for instance the death of your grandchild.

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WHA WAS THE TURNING POINT FOR YOU IN JWS

by chuckyy in

hi.. just wondering what it was that first made you realise that jws didnt have the absolute "truth"?

was there a specific event/turning point for you or was it a moment of enlightenment?.

chukky.

Dagney

When we started studying the Daniel Book in Bookstudy, everything fell apart. I was completely unconvinced. The society interpretation of the book is backed up by literally nothing but circular logic. There were too many instances of "B says that A is not true, but because A is true, B is being misinterpreted, therefore, A is true" throughout the literature.

That was my last book study!!! (Although I didn't know it at the time.) I sat at the front next to the conductor, brought my New Jerusalem Bible, and looked up every scripture in context. At least 1/3 of the time I would elbow my friend and them read the context...it was a stretch and very irritating.

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The Rest of My Story-The Fading Years

by okiesooner1966 in

i would like to start by saying the years following high school were probably even more stressful than before.

the very day i graduating i moved out of my parents house, it took all of three weeks to get my next commitee meeting.

i did a horrible thing by going on a graduation trip with some of my classmates, even though all did was party like it any other kid my age, which thier parents paid for thier trp it was enough for me to be disassociated, though i was not baptized at the time it was the same as being disfellowshipped.

Dagney

Thank you for sharing.

Kudos to you for your successful "life after JW!"

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WHA WAS THE TURNING POINT FOR YOU IN JWS

by chuckyy in

hi.. just wondering what it was that first made you realise that jws didnt have the absolute "truth"?

was there a specific event/turning point for you or was it a moment of enlightenment?.

chukky.

Dagney

All the issues discussed here contributed to my ending my life as a JW. Being required to shun a family member after a 20 yr old DF'g for "going against counsel," no immorality involved, no rule breaking involved, was the last straw. I decided I could not do it, will not do it.

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Disturbing news on the deaths of the 5 elders

by TooBad TooSad in

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friends

i have been following the news reports of the death of the 5 elders from tennesse that died.

in the plane crash.

several things really bother me.

Dagney

At nonjw funerals the widow is given many, many cards with money in them. I know a widow who received quite a large sum from all these helpful people. She was able to get through the next few months and consentrate on grief and that of her children and still make the housepayments and other household expenses.

We just had a funeral in my family. Not one JW family member, including a child of the deceased, or JW friend, (several elders), offered to contribute or gave money to the family. The non-JW's however provided food, money in envelopes and paid for some services. By their works you will know them.

The list keeps getting longer.

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Is the "marking" policy of the Society defunct or still officially used?

by yaddayadda in

in my over 30 years as a jw, i honestly can't recall ever hearing about anyone who was being officially "marked" pursuant to the society's "marking" policy based on 2 thess 3:14. .

in fact, i havn't read anything about their strange "marking" policy in years.

this makes me wonder if the society still has confidence in it and still officially endorses it?

Dagney

(Get out the Sharpie...marking is still used.)

I hear that I was marked, apparently for not going to meetings, by an elder, long time family friend. He instructed his family and some of my family to "mark me." I guess I was "unmarked" for a few days last month for a family funeral. Everybody was very lovey dovey, including him.

The only official use I experienced was at a congregation level. The PO gave a talk to the congregation regarding a couple who had a lot of trouble, and was causing trouble. I asked the PO what the deal was, (I remember having a question after looking up the info in the literature), since I was under the impression it was more of a personal decision. He said in this particular case, the BOE wanted to advise the congregation of a problem that seemed to be growing.

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Noah picture exclusives

by KW13 in

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friends

well i just realised how terrified i look holdin' him, and i was terrified!

didnt want to break the new baby!!

btw havent forgotten other topic, meg and i will look at that later.. megan had a long long labour, the induction took aaaaaaaages but things suddenly sped up at 15:00pm and by 16:45 he was out.

Dagney

Congratulations! He's beautiful!

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Ramblings and Questions of a tired Apostate

by horrible life in

god created adam and eve.

fill the earth, and become many.

live in paradise.

Dagney

IF humanity was created by a Supreme Being who was essentially good wouldn't this be the best of all possible worlds?
Both Adam and Eve lacked what they desired most. How is that the best of all possible worlds?
Wouldn't it be necessary at a minimum that the nature of humanity exactly match their limits?
In other words, if what was demanded of humanity exceeded their nature would that not guarantee their downfall?

I call the story of Biblical man the "Great Experiment gone wrong." They were doomed to fail.

Well stated; I've never been able to quite put the words together as well as you did.