It's so funny/not funny how they keep changing what is a founding core belief. I mean, everything hinges on they being "inspired but not inspired" and so the reason we should believe everything they say.
Posts by Dagney
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9being given holy spirit is not the same as being anointed, nor are they the same as 144,000
by sowhatnow inso im at my moms the other day, and there lay the latest january study issue has an article about the whole made up silly story of the upper room and the holy spirit.
[ how hard it is to be quiet....] .
i have never read acts, and saw that story happen.
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Hello everyone. New here looking for info and friends
by Harvard Illiterate 411 ini sometimes was redirected to this page from reddit or another ex-jw site but never bothered to sign up.
i wanted to stay off the radar but since i'm getting dis-fellowshipped anyways and have no plans to come back what the hell.
been 22 years in the truth........... ahhhh i hate to use that expression...... bad habit but you know what i mean.
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Dagney
Hello HI411! Welcome to JWN and to the rest of your life. I look forward to your comments.
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JW Tchotchkes ... what are these dummies thinking?
by Room 215 inhave a look: jwstuff.org [email protected].
and this isn't idolatry?
knorr and franz must be spinning in their graves..... .
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Court denies summary judgement for Laurel Jehovah's Witnesses congregation
by OrphanCrow incourt denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.
a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.
http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.
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Dagney
What confounds...well practically everybody in the world except for JW elders and the WT corporation, is that there is so little regard for the victims in these cases.
We are talking about statutory rape here in the OP...and there are now 12 pages on this thread regarding a corporation's "right" to not report a crime.
It is sad they lack such empathy and have such a disconnect to fellow humans. From the top down it is so cold...protect the corporation at all costs. And cost them...it has and it will.
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Court denies summary judgement for Laurel Jehovah's Witnesses congregation
by OrphanCrow incourt denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.
a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.
http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.
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Dagney
Where the society blows it and will continue to blow it is everywhere I have quickly read, the clergy person is singular. It does not read, "clergymen, judicial committees, legal desk at corporate headquarters, traveling overseers, neighboring congregation elders and their friends."
There is no confidentiality with the WT as was the intention in the constitution for a penitent to have a confidential and safe environment TO GO TO. It's beautiful how this argument has failed at all levels for the Watchtower Corporation.
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Court denies summary judgement for Laurel Jehovah's Witnesses congregation
by OrphanCrow incourt denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.
a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.
http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.
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Dagney
Any other attempts to disqualify JW existing church "confession" settings will be overturned.
I don't believe any attempt has been successful. LOL.
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Court denies summary judgement for Laurel Jehovah's Witnesses congregation
by OrphanCrow incourt denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.
a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.
http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.
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Dagney
Thank you blondie. They are getting quite a different reputation worldwide than they tell themselves. It's great to see the curtain finally pulled to the side.
As we wised up we have observed the WT most definitely has clergy/laity. And the courts and the law of the land confirm it.
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Court denies summary judgement for Laurel Jehovah's Witnesses congregation
by OrphanCrow incourt denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.
a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.
http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.
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Dagney
Erm...an appointed window washer janitor is not an appropriate counselor for this type of crime. See...it's a crime that needs a qualified investigation to assist the victim and protect other potential victims. Not a discussion by other window washers.
I have nothing against window washers...just making a point that they are just not educated to deal with these serious issues as many religious leaders and lawyers are.
Thankfully the courts agree. We need to get these laws passed in all states to protect the victims who are nothing in the eyes of the WBTS corporation.
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Court denies summary judgement for Laurel Jehovah's Witnesses congregation
by OrphanCrow incourt denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.
a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.
http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.
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Dagney
The "clergy-penitent" was used out here in CA for two cases I know of. The brother that murdered his wife, Kelle Jarka, and another guy who confessed to molesting various young girls. It didn't fly in the courts here either. Specifically because it is not kept discreet between the confessor and clergyman. It's reported to HQ and is reviewed with other BOE's and traveling overseers. There is no confidentiality to warrant that exclusivity intended for the confessional.
I hope the hits just keep coming.
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Has anybody watched Making A Murderer on Netflix ?
by smiddy ini watched this 10 part series the other day and i was appalled at the investigation conducted by the police , especially the way they conducted their investigation with brendan vassey , his interrogation and obvious manipulation by the police officers , i couldn`t believe he was convicted , and sentenced to a jail term.. to any intelligent person with any sense of compassion could see brendan vassey was intellectually disadvantaged , yet these police officers exploited that failing of this boy .he should never have been convicted , his case should have been thrown out of court , the fact that he has been in jail over 10 years is a gross miscarriage of justice .. the conviction of steven avery seemed to me to be a set up also from what was presented on netflix ,.
i am no fan of steven avery ,i think he is a bit of a hillbilly type , that has had no problem with cruelty to animals , which i abhor ,yet i do think he has been railroaded in this conviction ,while the real killer and rapist goes free .. what are your thoughts .
smiddy.
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Dagney
I can't get past why there wasn't more blood evidence at the trailer property if the killing was performed as the prosecution and Brendan said. As sloppy as these guys were in trying to hide the Rav4 in plain sight, they could NEVER be that thorough in cleaning all the blood evidence yet leaving the surrounding areas in place and looking as if nothing had been touched in months...dust and dirt wise.