The 1995 generation change was when I knew for sure they were making everything up. I hung in analysing the Watchtower mag more and more in the following years. At a Sunday meeting one day I had a moment of clarity where I knew I didn't belong there, I couldn't teach what they were teaching, and my whole life as I knew it would change. I never went back.
Posts by Dagney
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In one sentence, can you pinpoint a single event that woke you up?
by Brian J inmy turning point: serving on a child abuse judicial case.
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Please Switch Off Your Critical Thinking
by pale.emperor ini have an uneasy feeling inside that something is coming this year or the next.
perhaps a new big announcement that turns jwdom on it's head.. we've seen the statement in the watchtower november 15th, 2013 which said:.
watchtower november 15th, 2013 - page 20, paragraph 17.. .
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Dagney
Interesting thread and responses.
I think the WTBS move to video is brilliant. As they see the need to dissolve more and more congos, they could have a standard weekly meeting direct from mother for everybody to watch on TV and not have to physically attend a night meeting. WTBS can report their made up numbers without anyway to verify, and appear to still be going strong. They are half way there already.
They are really trying to figure out a way to keep the adherents engaged to feel what they are doing is relevant, with the least amount of investment from GQ - all under the guise of "simplification" and "Jah providing what is needed at the proper time."
People seemed to be thrilled at the relaxed demands of FS, trolleys/carts, tablet witnessing, reduced hours, and it appears more and more social as the demands ease up. At least that is what I see when I check people out on FB, I could be wrong. As the demands relax, they are less critical of mother.
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What’s the most effective way to wake the largest amount of JW’s up?
by Farmer Jim1 inwhat can one person do to save as many people as possible from this organisation?.
youtube videos?.
mail shots?.
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Dagney
For a person to "wake up" is highly individual. Usually someone has to at least question the org to be open enough for information. I have reconnected with some people from my teenage years and congregation. Last week I met up with some and we discussed what led us out, and all of us just knew something wasn't right, and we didn't belong there anymore. They followed their intuition far earlier than I did. Stupid me.
I've met quite a few people who stumbled upon this website while googling infor for JW's. They got lost in the discussions then next thing you know they are looking up all kinds of things. They weren't even questioning until they read things in this website.
JW Facts for the real deal. Paul has done such a great service in providing that website.
Youtube videos are really effective. Everybody I know that has left has watched far more exJW videos than me, and can tell me what they have learned from each of them, who they like and who they don't like.
It's an exciting time. All the sources are having a great effect.
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Home schooling website / system for JWs
by sir82 inso, apparently, there is an organization which provides structure, curriculum, etc.
for home-schooling of jw kids:.
http://www.newsystemschool.org/index.html.
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Dagney
I don't know what the statistics are either, but here in SoCal, homeschooling and JW schools were very very popular years ago. I think parents were trying to do what they thought was the best for their kids, but I don't think the result overall was that good. I know lots of kids that rebelled big time and left.
Being in school as a JW brings its own pressures. I was a nervous wreck having to "take my stand" to every new teacher in grade school. Alone in the library during holiday festivities was tough but not unbearable. It's weird thinking about it now.
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I gave up The 5th Dimension for Jehovah
by compound complex ingreetings, old timers (in particular):.
of course, we don't share all views in common.
unless i'm mistaken, however, we older, former jws were decisive about what our "bible-trained consciences" would allow -- or not.
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Dagney
Awww...Coco. I remember at 14yo driving in a fiat convertible in the fields out in FS with an older (16yo) RP sister, and listening to this song when it came out. It didn't phase us a bit. There were really hardline elders in my hall, but the bunch of us younger folks still listened to what we wanted.
xxx
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Dagney
Hey you! xx
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Pillowgate - John Cedars
by CitizenofEarth inis this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
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Dagney
HO. LY. COW.
Man these people are weird. Getting weirder.
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Larry Nasser..... WOW....
by DATA-DOG indo you think the gb are watching the live report??
will they learn from all this?
are they scared shitless as the reality of social media delivers one bitch-slap of truth after another?
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Dagney
I watched the judge sentence him.
I think his fellow inmates are going to give him their own type of justice at some point.
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Leaked 2018 Elders Training Video RE: Elders Reviewing Pionieers
by pale.emperor inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhq5viughny&feature=youtu.be.
quite frankly im disturbed at the lack of love and compassion.
especially for the first sister they talk about!.
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Dagney
I was told by a few that being a regular pioneer was the only way to have some recognition in the congo, especially if you were a woman. I said, "but is that the real reason to pioneer?" After the thrill is gone, and you have spent thousands of hours in the work, ya need to hang on to some validation for it.
This cult works it's powers of control very well. Thank god all you guys are O-U-T!!!
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Consolidation of Bethel Big-Wigs Now?
by The Fall Guy ina reliable source has informed me that a bethel contact has informed them that paul gillies - a london branch committee heavyweight - is moving to warwick to join the legal department there.
anyone else aware of this?.
during the recent court case in russia, he posed for a photograph with the gb member and the rest of the wt a-team..
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Dagney
I past this on to his cousin who is a friend of mine. She is going to ask around the family.