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  Michael the Archangel and Jesus same person? Start of Blondie researching

  by blondie in

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  i was reading something else on jwn and remembered why i started questioning wts definite statements of fact.. i was asked by a non-jw to prove these 2 points from the scripture:.

  1. when did the 2,300 days in daniel 8:13,14 start?

  this scripture therefore suggests that jesus himself is the archangel michael.. https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102005160?q=jesus+michael+archangel&p=sen.

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  Dagney

  What did somebody write on here...

  ”it’s not what the Bible says. It’s what the Watchtower says the Bible says.”

  A don’t ya just love “it’s logical to conclude...”. I’ve always loved that one.
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  What Do You Think Would Make A Witness Decide It Was Now Time To Leave The “Truth”?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  is there anything that will make that loyal witness ever see the light??

  you know, that well respected elder, pioneer, or witness who has been in the “truth “ for decades..

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  Dagney

  I think there is a base of JWs that just don’t want to think about anything else, and prefer being told what to do, and would do nothing to jeopardize their social spiritual network. I think there is a far larger group that knows it is probably all BS, and are struggling through.

  The end not coming, new light changes, shunning of loved ones etc must eat away at normal folks shouldn’t it???? 😞🤔
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  July 4 th Independence Day... Do You Know Any Witnesses That Celebrated?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i knew of a ministerial servant that was called out because he used fire crackers on the 4 th of july.

  we had to have an emergency meeting as to his qualifications.

  i remember imploring the body to not make a big issue over this and it was decided to just “counsel” him about being involved in a patriotic holiday.🤨.

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  Dagney

  Sorta like Thanksgiving? JW’s bbq on the holiday, buy fireworks because it’s the only time you can, go see firework shows, all the moves but don’t “celebrate.”
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  OCT 2019 Watchtower - Survival dependant on loyalty to JW Leaders

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there is so much wrong with the newly released october, 2019 but that's not unusual.

  what stands out is there statement claiming that survival through armageddon depends on loyalty to those 'taking the lead'.

  since they claim there will be a point during the gt that they (the gb) won't be physically around, jws must still be loyal to jw leaders.. whats interesting in this article is that they make it clear that they, the governing body are going to take part, from heaven, in the war of armageddon.

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  Dagney

  Before I left I asked some "former" friends the following question.

  What "prophecy" did the FDS make that came true? Not Bible prophecy, not information taken from external sources, just FDS prognostications. No one came up with any, including me. The elephant in the room...1975.
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  Anyone drop out of high school or not focus on grades becuase the end was near

  by rockemsockem in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i dropped out with 3 months left to go of the 12th grade.

  my uncle offed me a job and the end was only a few years away.

  my mother even though she was dyed in the wool at the time said she would only go along with it if i took a correspondence course out of american correspondence school out of chicago.

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  Dagney

  Seriously, all the girls in my hall dropped out to pioneer. I begged my mom to let me, but she in turn begged me to stay in school and get my degree which I did.

  I've reunited with some of these girls a few years ago and we talked about just this very thing. They got to pioneer and go to the beach everyday, and I stayed in school and had to work. It's many years later and everybody is fine. One even had a stint in Bethel, and came back during the Ray Franz thing. She returned to school, went to college, and is now a retired school teacher.

  Nuckin futs I tell you. All that drama for nothing.

  Edited to add: All these girls left the JW loooooong before I did. So pretty smart after all and in the end I was the dummy. sigh
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  OCT 2019 Watchtower - Survival dependant on loyalty to JW Leaders

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there is so much wrong with the newly released october, 2019 but that's not unusual.

  what stands out is there statement claiming that survival through armageddon depends on loyalty to those 'taking the lead'.

  since they claim there will be a point during the gt that they (the gb) won't be physically around, jws must still be loyal to jw leaders.. whats interesting in this article is that they make it clear that they, the governing body are going to take part, from heaven, in the war of armageddon.

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  They have been talking/teasing about the bus full of GB getting hit by a train on the way to Paterson at Bethel for YEARS.
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  Famous Movie Quotes You Like

  by The Bethelite in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the last lines from the movie platoon.

  "i think now, looking back, we did not fight the enemy, we fought ourselves, and the enemy was in us.

  the war is over for me now, but it will always be there, the rest of my days.

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  Dagney

  "Isn't fun the best thing to have!" - Arthur
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  JW Writing Department - Interview

  by APieceOfShitNamedTate in

  1. social
  2. humour

  written by freemindfade.

  edited by cappytan.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eo1o5qmagu .

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  Dagney

  Ok that's funny. lol
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  In Sydney, and ex jw gathering, with an apperance by Angus Stewart!

  by nonjwspouse in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this happened yesterday.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pfyty9bs3i.

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  Dagney

  Congratulations on a great meetup!

  You never forget those times you spent together sharing stories of this crazy life we have all experienced. The stories are all important from the barely exited to those out for years still trying to navigate life with family still in.

  Cheers mates!! Perhaps our paths will cross some day!
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  30 years after leaving utterly unrecognisable

  by Number 6 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is the first time i have posted on here in many years..... i seldom visit now although this forum was instrumental to me in gaining my sanity in the early 2000's and recovering from the watchtower religion.. by chance tonight i was on youtube and caught a jw.org video which out of curiosity prompted me to look at the official website and amongst other things i looked up the music section.. why that i hear you ask?

  music is my passion and nothing reminds me more or evokes more memories than the kingdom songs i grew up listening to.. i am 49 years old and my mother was baptised in 1974. i grew up in the era of pink songbooks and green bibles.

  of the theology of fred franz and types and anti-types.

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  Dagney

  The place was almost empty - whereas years ago it would have been packed

  Hi LHG! Okay this was odd to me also. This man was a lifetime JW/elder, covering multiple congos. I thought for sure I'd be parking on the street, nope, pulled right into a spot 10 min before. Pictured myself standing in the back, nope, got a seat. But again it's possible people have moved away that knew him, or circumstances prevented their attendance. Some did come from far away.

  I'm still processing it all.