Man does this make my day. Wow.
I am venturing into the land of JW in a few weeks to visit relatives. I am so curious what the atmosphere will be.
Posts by Dagney
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40Lots of empty seats at Jehovah's Witnesses Convention in Tucson, Arizona
by RULES & REGULATIONS inhttps://youtu.be/5926nhzyz90.
the jehovah's witness 2023 convention theme is, ''exercise patience''...by looking at the attendance at this tucson, arizona convention, it should be changed to, '' jehovah's witnesses...running out of patience''.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Dagney
Man... this guy! He is so focused on himself and his defense he cannot see the absurdity of the statements he makes.
He should not have ANYTHING to do with ANYBODY who has suffered sexual/emotional abuse of any kind. He is a predator.
We knew from the get go here he was a tool, unreasonable and vindictive, to say the least. But he is far far worse.
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Regional Convention Attendance
by XBEHERE inelder friend of mine texted me asking what my rc attendance was 2 weeks ago (family and i streamed it since wife is not well).
he told me that his rc in the jersey city assembly hall last weekend was low.
co told them that around 2600 were the total from 16+ congs that were assigned.
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Dagney
I tried to watch Six Screens, as that convention location is where I live and attended. Those pictures though, wow. It used to be such a vibrant occasion and the location was very sweet by the ocean. Now, less than 3K in attendance! I didn't think it would be that low, and there are 12 conventions scheduled. Surprising also NO bibles. I know they use the App, but still!
This low attendance is good news to be sure, the REAL Good News! What a dreadful time to be a JW. And creepy.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Dagney
OMG lol
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Does the WTS have a clergy class (yes-no)
by blondie inwt 2021 october p.20 "in contrast, true worshippers of jehovah have no clergy.
although we respect those who are taking the lead, we accept jesus’ clear teaching: “all of you are brothers.”".
ijbq article 92 point 6: in contrast, true worshippers of jehovah have no clergy.
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Dagney
^^^LOL
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Does the WTS have a clergy class (yes-no)
by blondie inwt 2021 october p.20 "in contrast, true worshippers of jehovah have no clergy.
although we respect those who are taking the lead, we accept jesus’ clear teaching: “all of you are brothers.”".
ijbq article 92 point 6: in contrast, true worshippers of jehovah have no clergy.
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Dagney
The WT corp doesn't like certain words...like clergy, grace, gospel etc. Those are "Christendom's" words.
In quickly reading a dozen google definitions for clergy, the WT corp most definitely has a clergy whether some poor brother from the platform waxes sentimentally that "we are all brothers.." and says they do not. But the corporation doesn't like the word clergy.
It is very very clear from every word from corporate, obedience to the men in leadership in this organization is mandatory. This is a clergy by numerous definitions.
They just don't like the word. It's "Christendom's" word. They think if they tell the flock they are not a clergy, the followers will believe them.
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Does the WTS have a clergy class (yes-no)
by blondie inwt 2021 october p.20 "in contrast, true worshippers of jehovah have no clergy.
although we respect those who are taking the lead, we accept jesus’ clear teaching: “all of you are brothers.”".
ijbq article 92 point 6: in contrast, true worshippers of jehovah have no clergy.
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Dagney
They don't have clergy until they need one in court to avoid responsibility in lawsuits.
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All UK telephone landlines being phased out.....
by BoogerMan in.....and replaced with voip by 2025. https://www.pmctelecom.co.uk/blog/are-landline-phones-being-phased-out-in-2025/.
just heard this on a radio station's advert..
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Dagney
When I renewed my internet service at my desert bunker when the one year special expired, they "made" me get a land line and TV as part of a bundle that was cheaper than just getting another year of internet.
I don't get it. I was perfectly fine without it.
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All the Old JW Acquaintances Passing Away
by StephaneLaliberte inyesterday, my dad told me an older sister passed away.
she wasn't too old (in her 60s), but i knew her 30 years ago and haven't seen her in 15 years; the main reason being that i faded 10 years ago.. yesterday, i seriously considered attending the funeral and catch-up with old jws i used to know.
after thinking it over, i decided against it.
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Dagney
When my dad tried to kindly explain that he was too ill to attend the co-ordinator cut the call short and said he didn't have time to listen to all of my dad's health problems.
This infuriates me. I had a friend who experienced this. He was a month away from his passing and the secretary called to get his "time." He told him he had none to report. The elder pressed him for quite a while even asking "didn't you talk to meals on wheels, anybody? I don't want to put you down as irregular!" My ill and very sensitive friend was so distressed. I kept trying to tell him the elder was clueless and just "doing his job." But for me, this is one of the nails in the coffin. I left 1 year later.
Unless there is a caring group within the congregation who look after older/infirmed ones, they are on their own. There is no direction from the society to do any sort of care giving. I really hate this religion.
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All the Old JW Acquaintances Passing Away
by StephaneLaliberte inyesterday, my dad told me an older sister passed away.
she wasn't too old (in her 60s), but i knew her 30 years ago and haven't seen her in 15 years; the main reason being that i faded 10 years ago.. yesterday, i seriously considered attending the funeral and catch-up with old jws i used to know.
after thinking it over, i decided against it.
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Dagney
It's curious that given how important funeral talks are (and by the nature of things, how often they have to be held), there seems to be such variety in the quality of them. Especially when you think how tightly the org controls the content and tone of every other meeting.
I think it lies with the speaker. There is a good portion of them who get that this is the time to not just preach. They understand it's offensive to people who are grieving, even though they use the outline. I attended two HUGE memorials held at auditoriums, with live feed to the KH where the talk was given, one with a Bethel speaker. Other than the segue from warm and introspective to the resurrection and pet tiger, they were good overall. Also note literature tables set up with all the brochures Bibles etc. UGH.
I went to one where none other than Geoff Jackson attended via zoom, and gave a few words and gave the prayer. It was a very personable talk with lots of slides and experiences.
My mother's memorial speaker and Br. Dreadful were totally out of touch with the audience. They wanted only to get their message across and that is "all you guys out there need to come back to JeHOvah because you are bird food." My mother's was so horrible my brother, an elder, apologized for it later. As if anybody would ever want to join or rejoin after hearing these types of talks. Absolutely clueless.
So it appears HQ "allows" the speaker to make the call of how to integrate the outline, and face it, some guys are just clueless in any talk they give. In their mind fire and brimstone is the tool of choice.