Who says you cannot have recording devices at the hearing??
You can, as long as they dont see them:-)) Or has Bill have to go through a metal detector and also will be frisked???
To MHO they are scared to death! He'd better take a bodyguard!
draffenville
congregation
of jehovah's witnesses
Who says you cannot have recording devices at the hearing??
You can, as long as they dont see them:-)) Or has Bill have to go through a metal detector and also will be frisked???
To MHO they are scared to death! He'd better take a bodyguard!
didn't think my first thread would be about this, but all the conversation about how many jw abuse victims there could be really got me to thinking.
i fully agree with everyone here that this is a people and victims problem, not a numbers issue.
however, i was painfully surprised to see how the following statistics work out.. the us national child victimization rate for 2000 was 12.2 per 1,000.
Sound very reasonable to me!!
But I asked a J.W. about those rates and he told me, ofcourse, that they were much below average!!! Same story with the suicide rate, according to his magazine, their rate was very low!!! What do we f.i. need CNN for?? We have the Awake, very accurate and trustworthy!! *lol*
can anyone tell me please where it is written in the bible or in an awake that women have to scream while being raped?
i've read it somewhere but cant find it anymore, sorry!!!
thanx in advance!
Thanx Adonai 438 but I actually was looking for a more recent Awake than the one from 1968!
This J.W. told me: Screaming is a protection, you can also alarm people with it.
Regardless whether you scream or not, for a common court you have to
prove that you have been raped by THIS man! And it's much easier if
people have heard you screaming, don't you think! Thus, a wise direction
He has probably never heard of DNA evidence;-)) And is still stuck to those sick policies ot the WTS;-((
can anyone tell me please where it is written in the bible or in an awake that women have to scream while being raped?
i've read it somewhere but cant find it anymore, sorry!!!
thanx in advance!
Any more recent articles than this one??????
*** Watchtower 1968 June 1 pp.345-50 The Christian's View of Self-Defense ***
Would it be different if the man had a weapon and threatened to kill you if you did not submit? No, the Scriptures plainly state that Christians are under obligation to "flee from fornication." (1 Cor. 6:18) It is true that you face the possibility of death in this case. But you have no guarantee that if you meekly submit, your assailant will not kill you anyhow to avoid identification.
As his comment was:
"Btw. they are from 1968, we have had hundreds of new articles concerning these topics during the last 34 years with a more progressive understanding. Funny that they didn't take these ones.""
(title modified per request).
and to think, i thought i was valuing my precious gift of life so much that i was willing to sumbit to a violent crime in order stay alive.
how twisted my thinking.
Any more recent articles than this one??????
*** Watchtower 1968 June 1 pp.345-50 The Christian's View of Self-Defense ***
Would it be different if the man had a weapon and threatened to kill you if you did not submit? No, the Scriptures plainly state that Christians are under obligation to "flee from fornication." (1 Cor. 6:18) It is true that you face the possibility of death in this case. But you have no guarantee that if you meekly submit, your assailant will not kill you anyhow to avoid identification.
As his comment was:
"Btw. they are from 1968, we have had hundreds of new articles concerning these topics during the last 34 years with a more progressive understanding. Funny that they didn't take these ones.""
well, here's another nail for the coffin: my son requested this info to show his jw sister.
washington, d.c. 20549.
form 10-ksb.
If not, then why have they held onto them??___________
For getting access to the library??;-))
Thanx avengers for this post, not all of us have been here long enough to know that it was a prior story!
can anyone tell me please where it is written in the bible or in an awake that women have to scream while being raped?
i've read it somewhere but cant find it anymore, sorry!!!
thanx in advance!
Thanx avengers!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/audiovideo/programmes/panorama/newsid_855000/855727.stm
on this link you can give public comments on your views of the panorama programme.
already, several jws are in denial over the claims of the programme, and i think we need to add some balanced comments to show that there are many ex-jws who have been hurt by the wts, and that we appreciated the programme.. please tell the bbc your thoughts..
Trotafox:
JUST SENT MINE IN. LET'S GET CRACKING FOLKS
Same here!!!!
I felt sick to my stomach seeing the program and add to that the next reply I got from a J.W. about screaming while being raped: ""
>>As if a woman would quietly submit to rape!!!!!!! Bloody fools who think
>>that!
>Actually, I know a 17 year old girl (not JW) who did it like this.
>She "submitted" to rape, said she just wanted to go through it, to
>see it being over and did nothing against it. Stupid thing.
>I won't discuss these articles of you. Btw. they are from 1968, we
>have had hundreds of new articles concerning these topics during the last 34 years
>with a more progressive understanding. Funny that they didn't take these ones.
How dare he call her a stupid thing!!!!! Really makes my blood boil!!
Progressive understanding????? Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
well, here's another nail for the coffin: my son requested this info to show his jw sister.
washington, d.c. 20549.
form 10-ksb.
*cheers* for your son!
Can you tell me where he has find this, as my fanatic J.W. surely wants some proof!!!
can anyone tell me please where it is written in the bible or in an awake that women have to scream while being raped?
i've read it somewhere but cant find it anymore, sorry!!!
thanx in advance!
Thanx a lot Matty!!