here is what this "special topic" describes with deadly false propaganda.. "a person might ask why we would single out the witnesses in this matter.
as with other fundamentalist cults, the watchtower goes by the bible advice only when it comes to exposing crimes regarding children or anyone else, that there must be two or more witnesses to a crime.
since abuse and molestation are rarely seen by anyone other than the perpetrator and the victim (and the victim will rarely testify against himself), perhaps hundreds or thousands of cases have gone unpunished, and the perpetrator has not been brought to the police, and the congregation has not been told.
Dear Syn,
*applaud*
I couldnt have said it better!
But it's no use, he is so brainwashed he cant see straight! The sad thing is that most J.W. dont even realise what a complete fool they make of themselves by giving such non-the-matter answers, they're just a bunch of parrots! And if you ask them a 'difficult' question they need a book to look up the answer, how pathetic!!!
here is what this "special topic" describes with deadly false propaganda.. "a person might ask why we would single out the witnesses in this matter.
as with other fundamentalist cults, the watchtower goes by the bible advice only when it comes to exposing crimes regarding children or anyone else, that there must be two or more witnesses to a crime.
since abuse and molestation are rarely seen by anyone other than the perpetrator and the victim (and the victim will rarely testify against himself), perhaps hundreds or thousands of cases have gone unpunished, and the perpetrator has not been brought to the police, and the congregation has not been told.
"" Where is the concern that maybe your elders are not doing their jobs? Where is your concern that your children could be abused? Where are you behaving as Christ would in tending to his sheep?""
Concern?*lol* Their only concern seems to be trying to be one of the 144.000 promised to go to 'heaven"!!! The rest can drop dead for all they care!
it was one year ago today, that i mailed my disassociation letter.
i had postponed my da'ng to spend months (many sleepless) gathering research to help "rescue" my jw friend of 26 years.
i called her finally on june 30. turns out, she could have cared less.
To Trotafox:
So we had the same idea?? Luckily he turned only 19 instead of f.i. 39;-)
But the look on their faces were priceless, we'll never forget, do we?
Today it's my birthday but if you are used to it, it doesnt mean much after 42 years;-))
Take care,
Europe
my name is walt collins, i'm a 23 guy in melbourne, australia, migrated from the uk 4 years ago.. i've been going through some pain lately, my mother (still in the .
uk) and i have really had a rough period and she's decided to put .
her religion before me and after many heated conversations, we are now no longer in contact.. .
Well mr. Singsongboi, unfortunately not only 'some' people, but a lot!
hi,i just came back from visiting some relatives in the south of france yesturday.
it seams though that my wife has got us into a bit of an akward situation.she hasn't told any of her family in france that i no longer believe in the religion of jehovahs witnesses.in fact they all think i am a ministerial servent in the congregation at home.
i don't speak much french, and didn't know untill recently that she hadn't told anyone we don't go to meetings etc.shes afraid her mum and grandmother will have a big shock if they find out , or at worse she will disinherited from quite a substantial amount of money.
Hi,
I think it's a matter of conscience! You can either stand up for yourself and risk not inheriting anything OR play the role, their role!!!! I would take the first option, but that's very personal.As the other option would give me the feeling that I sell my soul for money!
But you're not in a hurry, are you?
my name is walt collins, i'm a 23 guy in melbourne, australia, migrated from the uk 4 years ago.. i've been going through some pain lately, my mother (still in the .
uk) and i have really had a rough period and she's decided to put .
her religion before me and after many heated conversations, we are now no longer in contact.. .
P.S.To Josephus:
Josephus:""if you mention this subject on a religious site its to be expected that youll get that kind of response""
Why?? We live in 2002, dont we? I think Walter only mentioned it to clarify the sitiation, not because he wanted to hear that people 'dont approve' of it! Especially because it was his first posting!
Besides... to my humble opinion there is a whole lot of difference between 'approving' of someone with a violent/criminial behavior than of someone being gay, dont you think?
Did you notice that it were only men who wrote in their comments that they didnt 'approve' of it?
Mpatrick and puffsrule and I didnt say a word about it!!!;-))
my name is walt collins, i'm a 23 guy in melbourne, australia, migrated from the uk 4 years ago.. i've been going through some pain lately, my mother (still in the .
uk) and i have really had a rough period and she's decided to put .
her religion before me and after many heated conversations, we are now no longer in contact.. .
To Josephus:
Sorry, but it was NOT me who wrote"; well I think a lot of people are not educated... being gay isn't a choice"" it was Walter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just highlighted his remark!
Ciao,
Europe
my name is walt collins, i'm a 23 guy in melbourne, australia, migrated from the uk 4 years ago.. i've been going through some pain lately, my mother (still in the .
uk) and i have really had a rough period and she's decided to put .
her religion before me and after many heated conversations, we are now no longer in contact.. .
""well I think a lot of people are not educated... being gay isn't a choice.... I absolutely did NOT wake up on a MOnday morning and think "I'll be gay from today!" why would I choose to ruin my life and go thro so much pain.. and cause others so much pain?
"Well replied Walter. How can people say things like "I dont approve of homosexuality"??
Dont they know that actually your parents are at fault as its scientifically proven over a dozen times that it's in your genes!! Better tell your mum walter;-)))
Dont let yourself be discouraged by phrases like that, they dont know any better!! If my son would be gay, I wouldnt love him less, probably even more (if possible) as his life will be more complicated!!
here is what this "special topic" describes with deadly false propaganda.. "a person might ask why we would single out the witnesses in this matter.
as with other fundamentalist cults, the watchtower goes by the bible advice only when it comes to exposing crimes regarding children or anyone else, that there must be two or more witnesses to a crime.
since abuse and molestation are rarely seen by anyone other than the perpetrator and the victim (and the victim will rarely testify against himself), perhaps hundreds or thousands of cases have gone unpunished, and the perpetrator has not been brought to the police, and the congregation has not been told.
""It is a great thing we can disfellowship such ones,""
You dont DF anybody!!! Only the ones that dared to go public with the mess within your cult!
"" it is what makes my religion so great. ""
So great in what? Covering up, brainwashing, being a member of the UN for 10 years while calling them the Wild Beast, fooling people? In that case, you are absolutely right!!
We try not to take our brothers to court as well.
How noble, especially if they are ordinary criminals as so many in this world!
Anyone can speak out if they were molested,
Ofcourse, and then to be told to pray more or that she asked for it herself???Typically a male answer from somenone of a male society!
that is what everyone is taught at the Kingdom Halls of justice.
Taught?? Wake up please and stop taking your valium!
Btw: why should every body be 'taught"? Is this still Kindergarten??
it was one year ago today, that i mailed my disassociation letter.
i had postponed my da'ng to spend months (many sleepless) gathering research to help "rescue" my jw friend of 26 years.
i called her finally on june 30. turns out, she could have cared less.
So tomorrow another birthday coming??;-))
Congratulations!!!
Last March I celebrated my friends first birthday (although he turned 19:-))) and I gave him 19 little presents, one for each year he missed! I never forget his face!!
Ciao
Europe
