Posts by dawgfan

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JW Citizenship to another country

by dawgfan in

i've always wondered how jws get around the citizenship process when moving to another country.. example: here in the us, to my understanding, all naturalized citizens have to take the oath of allegiance.

also i read that there are similar things that other countries require.. the us oath.

"i hereby declare, on oath, that i absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which i have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that i will support and defend the constitution and laws of the united states of america against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that i will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that i will bear arms on behalf of the united states when required by the law; that i will perform noncombatant service in the armed forces of the united states when required by the law; that i will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that i take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me god.".

dawgfan

I've always wondered how JWs get around the citizenship process when moving to another country.

Example: Here in the US, to my understanding, all naturalized citizens have to take the Oath of Allegiance. Also I read that there are similar things that other countries require.

The US oath

"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."

But I know of JWs who have gained citizenship here (and some that are in process of) and I wondered how they get around this but never asked.

Can anyone explain this to me? (for US and any other Countries)

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Burning Incense might be a Sin

by sammielee24 in

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the wt website now has an article on burning incense.

yes - pretty soon i'm sure they'll be telling you how to trim your toenails.

i'm surprised that they still allow dancing at weddings actually, since we know that dancing was so paganistic and led to wild, animalistic sex.

dawgfan

I think that its not so much as that they really care about incense but more of an attack against religions that use incense in services. Warning against that whole false religion stuff.

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The JW fall campaign about false religion

by NowImFree in

i just wanted to find out if any of you have had strange experiences confronting jw family members about this brochure.

i am asking because there have been two case of child molestation in my family both perpetrated by jw elder's sons and then covered up.

we have also had a suicide in my family - my oldest brother killed himself after been disfellowshiped and shunned for years.

dawgfan

I'm thinking that it is kind of backfiring and having unintended consequences. Since so many people got the brochure, I'm seen a lot of discussion on several message boards (religious and non religious) that I am a member of. A lot of people that had no idea what JWs believe but had a lot of questions have gotten a lot of insight of the watchtower teachings that they never would have before. --------the list of potential converts are getting slimmer because of it.

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anyone ever had a pet custody battle in a divorce

by dawgfan in

i feel somewhat ridiculous.

i know that a dog is not the same as a child but even my soon to be ex has conceeded on alot of points in the divorce papers, we cannot agree on who gets custody of the dog.

i've always had dogs when i was growing up, but i really love this dog that we have.

dawgfan

Thanks guys for the ideas

I found 2 good links to send to her about quaranting animals that come into her country and the dangers of transporting pets in cargo holds.

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anyone ever had a pet custody battle in a divorce

by dawgfan in

i feel somewhat ridiculous.

i know that a dog is not the same as a child but even my soon to be ex has conceeded on alot of points in the divorce papers, we cannot agree on who gets custody of the dog.

i've always had dogs when i was growing up, but i really love this dog that we have.

dawgfan

Jesus man, it's a dog. Let her have it, make her cough up a few things for it, go buy yourself two new puppies, and move on with life. Believe me I wish I could have this attitude.

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anyone ever had a pet custody battle in a divorce

by dawgfan in

i feel somewhat ridiculous.

i know that a dog is not the same as a child but even my soon to be ex has conceeded on alot of points in the divorce papers, we cannot agree on who gets custody of the dog.

i've always had dogs when i was growing up, but i really love this dog that we have.

dawgfan

Q.I have heard of people sharing custody of pets. would that work for you both?

Nope, she's moving back to her country.

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anyone ever had a pet custody battle in a divorce

by dawgfan in

i feel somewhat ridiculous.

i know that a dog is not the same as a child but even my soon to be ex has conceeded on alot of points in the divorce papers, we cannot agree on who gets custody of the dog.

i've always had dogs when i was growing up, but i really love this dog that we have.

dawgfan

I feel somewhat ridiculous. I know that a dog is not the same as a child but even my soon to be ex has conceeded on alot of points in the divorce papers, we cannot agree on who gets custody of the dog.

I've always had dogs when I was growing up, but I really love this dog that we have. He's been the only constant in my life while my wife separated from me, I got news that my grandmother who raised me will die soon from cancer, and generally kept me from being lonely.

I'm alot stronger now but there were days that dog was the only thing that could make me smile. Even though it was her original idea to get the dog, I'm the one that has spent the most time with it.

I know I could get another dog or animal but I don't want to. It wouldn't be the same.

Am I just being too stupid right now?

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I hate having JW parents.

by reneeisorym in

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friends

i'll try to make this long story short.. in october ... about 3 days before i left for a trip my mother decided to have my cell phone cut off.

i've had my bill in my mom's name since i was 16 and have always paid it since i was old enough to work.

but .. out of pure spite, she cut off my phone.

dawgfan

Congratulations.

It's their loss if they don't attend.

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Met a small group of Jehovah's Witnesses today

by The wanderer in

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met a small group of jehovah's witnesses today a couple of jehovah's witnesses came to my door today.

first my reaction was that i was not interested and i let them know.

that as i was closing the door.. however, after i closed the door it dawned on me to question them.

dawgfan

What? No pics to dwell upon to go along with the discussion this time?

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Impulsive buyer....What was I thinking?~?

by purplesofa in

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yesterday, i was in wal-mart, taking care of some business at the service desk, while i was there, i thought......i'll just browse a bit and then get home.. before i knew it i was at the check-out with a hotdog griller...!!!!!!

you know it looks kinda like the ones at gas stations, movie theatres, ball parks!!

i barely eat 10 hot dogs a year and thats just when i don't have another choice.. i have never bought anything stupider that i can remember.. forty bucks spent........maybe five bucks back after i keep it five years.......selling it in a gargae sale.. tell us.....do you buy things impulsively and what was your biggest mistake?.

dawgfan

I paid $250 for an mp3 player from Best Buy a long time before they became popular. I had buyers remorse for about a week until I understood everything that it could do. After 2 weeks, I very happy that I had bought it. Now I can't live without it.

Most of the time when I go shopping and I see something expensive that I want, I use the 1 hour rule I made up. I stay in the store for 1 hour and think about it. If I still want it after that hour, I get it. Most of the time I put stuff back. There's no telling how much $$ I've saved myself by doing that.