I guess i just never paid attention to any annoucements made about publishers..so I never had any idea of how many ppl were there... all I wanted to hear was "amen" so I could go home.
Raylo
i don't think we ever had more than 75 for an average attendence at the local kingdom hall.
i was driving by there the other day when the thursday meeting was going on and it appears based on the cars that there is still about 75 people attending.
when i drive by churches of similar size [meaning the church building is about the same size (square footage) as a normal kingdom hall] there seems to me many more people, perhaps 110 or more attending.. i'm just curious if it seems to be a practice to keep jw congregations to around 75 to 100 people or not.
I guess i just never paid attention to any annoucements made about publishers..so I never had any idea of how many ppl were there... all I wanted to hear was "amen" so I could go home.
Raylo
i have not been an active witness active for several years now.
so are the women still being forced to wear skirts and dresses still?
i really think that the whole dress thing has been for some time now very outdated.
but I kind of understand why they do it.
It's because of those that would abuse it if they allowed trousers. Some would take it too far and not wear smart trousers but turn up to the kh in denim or combats or something really tight showing off the 'camel toe'.
That's true..very much so..hahaha I can see somebody showing up with the pants Olivia Newton-John had on at the end of Grease (they literally had to sew her into the pants..lol)......but some sisters abuse the dress/skirts already... too tight,too short, denim skirts with combats, leather minis, high slits, plunging neck line. Soooo that same stuff they would have to council on for abuse of trousers, they currently already have to councel for dresses/skirts, no?
lol..I'm surprised no one had adopted a 'school uniform' to be used in the halls.
Raylo
hiya folks.
just joined on board and figured i'd say a quick hello to all.
i'd get into more, but i'm soooo watching this ingrid bergman marathon on right now on turner classic movies...
About me? it's somewhere here on this post....lol
but I'm a bit blatantly honest, so if there is anything else you'd like to know ..simply ask. Waste of time for me to skirt around it when I can simply answer...
thanks for the welcome!
Raylo
hiya folks.
just joined on board and figured i'd say a quick hello to all.
i'd get into more, but i'm soooo watching this ingrid bergman marathon on right now on turner classic movies...
Any chance you can change your font size, it's really hard trying to read that tiny writing!!
Sure thing Bubble..noo prob
Amazingly I also write that small. I used to have to grade my own papers in school because my teachers could not read the small writing!
Raylo
hiya folks.
just joined on board and figured i'd say a quick hello to all.
i'd get into more, but i'm soooo watching this ingrid bergman marathon on right now on turner classic movies...
aw..so sweet. thanks again all !!!... now I have tons of catching up on some topics.
For my wife and I, our departure from JWdom plunged us both into a deep depression and launched a number of physical ailments I suspect wouldn't normally have manifested themselves until years later. The antidote? Classic movies. We saw everything black, white & English. How many times I recall coming home from work to a home with all the blinds drawn, Spencer Tracy, Kathryn Hepburn et al working their living room magic. We caught up on a generation of American culture we had missed. I still sigh when thinking of how incredibly beautiful the very young Hepburn, Bacall & others were in their heyday.
Hi TMS. I have to admit that I was fortunate in that my leaving did not affect me..just as my baptism didn't affect me. I do know that for many it's a life altering event that can be wrought with unpleasantness.......but I love your remedy...your "medicine" of classic movies! I myself collect Katharine's movies (and of course those she did with Spencer) along with Audry, Bette, Ingrid, Sophia, Elizabeth, Greer, Rita, Lana, Fred Astaire, Frank, Carey Grant, Jimmy/James Stewart, etc etc. And I love my classics even moreso since I can watch them whenever I wish to without worrying about having to go to 30,000 meetings a week.. I also collect foreign movies, whether it be French, Italian, Swedish, Hindi...so whatever the language it's better than suffering through the hall..lol. Hope you and your wife find as much joy in the classics as I do..especially as it's a remedy of sorts for you two.
ps: You may have gotten some of your "independent spirit" from your mother. Based on what you've stated, she sounds like an extraordinarily levelheaded JW.
Actually no. My mother is not an independent anything...lol. She's extremely co-dependent. Even she acknowledges that my sister and I are the independent speakers/thinkers/doers in the family. My mother does everything else strictly by the society...she still get nervous if I watch a movie rated PG-13. She lives alone (widow) so all I simply did was point out how the ppl of the hall never checked on her, called her, saw if she needed anything......only family did. It'd been that way for years..so where was that Christian love? So of course she did not cut her ties with either my sister or myself. If she needs anything, though I do not live in the same state now, only my sis and I are there for her.....so she has chosen to not turn her back....Good choice I'd say!!
She will not, however abandon her faith..and I will not try to talk her out of it. I learn things from observation, not persuasion. Perhaps she will do the same.
Raylo
the latest rumblings are that the wtbts may start coming down hard on anyone who marries outside the faith.
jw's who choose to marry a non believer will be df'd.
i would imagine those marrying unbaptized ones will be marked or told to get the spouse baptized or get df'd.
Paul did say to go ahead and marry BUT ONLY IN THE LORD, so you really never know if the GB could make some rules about that
You know? Everytime I've read the passage, I've always wondered..... well whatever religion the other person is [actually if that person does have a religion period], they in all of their heart do believe that they do have the Lord.... so if a JW married someone who wholeheartedly serves their religion/their Lord....aren't they techincally still marrying IN THE LORD? The bible makes no distictinction as to any specific religion...
If that non-JW believes Jesus is Lord and Saviour.....does the Bible make distinction as to how it's "evenly yoked" if both persons equally believe in Christ as Lord?
Hell, if a Catholic or a Baptist has a bumpersticker proclaiming "I Love The Lord" and they do love their religion......aren't they in the Lord?
I know the intent of JWs and GB when they read and try to apply those scriptures, (blah blah) but I'm a bit of a semantic and I like directness as I'm a technical person...and well technically speaking.......
Okay, Okay..so sometimes I wonder the most peculiar things.
Raylo
i have not been an active witness active for several years now.
so are the women still being forced to wear skirts and dresses still?
i really think that the whole dress thing has been for some time now very outdated.
ladies' tents. Actually, I'd prolly have liked to hide inside one of those things when out in servitude.
NOW can we say a collective AMEN?
The sis said that the worldly folks up in the subdivision on the hill that overlooked the KH could see us coming and going and it was a bad witness.
Yes anyone who takes the time out to go worship God in slacks after they get off from work is bound to go to straight to hell. Yep, I see the point of it being a bad witness. Nevermind that the ppl have real issues on their minds...Every time "worldly ppl" look out of their doors and see JW women with pants on near a hall they think "What blasphemy!" So yep, that sister had a point (which was.. never skip a day of your meds)
*sigh*
Raylo
if they would have made such announcement, i STILL would have probably been asleep with my eyes open.
But I would be so heartbroken to not be able to speak to Betty the cow until she gave up her filthy ways! lol
divorce is much more common in the jehovah's witness community than they would like to admit.
probably more so than the population in general in my opinion.. if you have been divorced, do you think that the watchtower society contributed to the divorce, or caused it, or is it just possible you married some jerk or abuser and divorce would have occured no matter what religion you were, or even if you had no religion?.
possibly you got married way too young as the end was coming and there is no marriage in the resurrection if you died.
I'm just replying again because I like your wonderwoman avatar..lol
she's actually the only comic superhero character that I like...and yes I have the dvds of the show..
Raylo
hiya folks.
just joined on board and figured i'd say a quick hello to all.
i'd get into more, but i'm soooo watching this ingrid bergman marathon on right now on turner classic movies...
i could not log on for the past 2 days, but here it is: well thanks everyone for the welcome!!
jgnat.. I truly was quite amused seeing if I could "test out" the human v/s the spirit aspects of the leaders in the organization. From where I sat, I saw more human and spirit. I myself never ever had any inclination to have that religion in my heart.. I was just...there to be there. I simply told my mother, I was there "because you wanted me to be"..but enough was enough. I had no problem not coming back, though no one there personally never did anything to me. I've always thought the JW religion was BS since I was 5 years old..lol. I'll have to admit that I'm fortunate that mother still recognizes that her fleshly family holds stronger ties. She speaks to my sister and myself 98% more than she talks to the ppl in the KH.
anywho....again....THANKS FOR THE WELCOME!
I'm sure I'll be heard from again..lol
Raylo