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  An Elder...No longer serving as an Elder.

  by xjwms in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my wife was at the meeting last night, ... and she told me this morning that an announcement was made that.

  one of the elders decided to step aside.

  he was so hard core it made me sick.

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  What if we don't believe in holy spirit ?

  Okay then, you can poke fun at it, but only those that don't believe.
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  The Millenium is nearby, isn't it?

  by Yussidiver in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think that jehovah will bring salvation next month to all of us.

  we, ex-jws with our lifes totally destroyed by the sect-tanic machine of lies of the cheattower, will inherit the paradise.

  no entrance allowed to gay, lesbians and that kind of satanic tribes.

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  If you are stepping in for the "Perfect" Christ, Jake99, that picture of a bald man must not be you.
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  The Millenium is nearby, isn't it?

  by Yussidiver in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think that jehovah will bring salvation next month to all of us.

  we, ex-jws with our lifes totally destroyed by the sect-tanic machine of lies of the cheattower, will inherit the paradise.

  no entrance allowed to gay, lesbians and that kind of satanic tribes.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Sorry, you missed it. It was about six years ago. Don't worry though. There'll be another one along in 994 years....

  I'm going to change your name to funnyderek.

  I got it.
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  An Elder...No longer serving as an Elder.

  by xjwms in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my wife was at the meeting last night, ... and she told me this morning that an announcement was made that.

  one of the elders decided to step aside.

  he was so hard core it made me sick.

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  OnTheWayOut

  willyloman, of course they are appointed by Holy Spirit. Judas was also. But Jehovah chooses the man based on what he is doing today, not by looking forward to see if he will fail or need to step down. Why do you suppose Saul was such a miserable failure as a king? Are you saying Jehovah picked the wrong man for the job. Was Fred Franz the wrong man for the job of one-in-three-million who will decide what the Bible should say, and what it should mean?

  We cannot look at the disasterous results of putting Freddy in charge of all that, any more than with Saul. Jehovah knew what he was doing when he appointed pedophiles or yes-men. Each congregation had different needs, and the men were qualified at that moment to fill those needs.

  You really gotta stop questioning Holy Spirit.
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  Older WT quote reveals attitude toward disfellowshipped family members

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey, i discovered this older quote from reexamine.org.

  i could not believe how serious it was about what a family .

  member was not allowed to do with a disfellowshipped .

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  OnTheWayOut

  How does the husband or wife feel during intercourse when they would rather be legally allowed to kill the apostate spouse?

  How does the apostate feel at that moment, knowing the good feelings he or she is getting from their spouse are
  not reciprocated? They either wish you could be killed, or they are just paying you for cooking/ cleaning/ paying
  the rent.

  I am against it. I can't believe I fell for this crap.
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  Older WT quote reveals attitude toward disfellowshipped family members

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey, i discovered this older quote from reexamine.org.

  i could not believe how serious it was about what a family .

  member was not allowed to do with a disfellowshipped .

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  OnTheWayOut

  The same hugs and sincere feelings that garybuss gets go to Perry also.
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  Older WT quote reveals attitude toward disfellowshipped family members

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey, i discovered this older quote from reexamine.org.

  i could not believe how serious it was about what a family .

  member was not allowed to do with a disfellowshipped .

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  OnTheWayOut

  Perry,

  I believe it says what you think it says. So, a marriage is a wonderful union when two people serve Jah together,
  but the Governing Body tells a faithful spouse of an apostate to just be a whore.
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  Older WT quote reveals attitude toward disfellowshipped family members

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey, i discovered this older quote from reexamine.org.

  i could not believe how serious it was about what a family .

  member was not allowed to do with a disfellowshipped .

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  sf,

  we all have the ability to discover this site on our own and keep it a secret from the other active JW's.
  I am doing that. Some will decide to DA, others to fade, many to just keep reading and doing
  what they want (continue as elder, publisher, pioneer, whatever).

  As far as congregation leaders telling the flock the truth, I didn't bother. Their minds are borg-ified.
  In my opinion, (remember it's my OPINION, not a fact) the elder who does share the truth about
  issues by talks, flyers, secrets, or other ways- he only looks like an apostate that Satan has gotten
  to. Better to just drastically change your ways, allow others who are sincerely concerned to approach
  you and ask what's up. Others who don't change their elder ways, I am a bit perplexed. I don't know
  how I could have stayed in a position, knowing the truth about 1975, the UN, SilentLambs, etc.

  sf, What kind of response would I get if I took this 1952 WT to the brothers and sisters, with perhaps
  some highlights in it (as I have done) but offering no comments? I would get the elder shuffle leading
  to a judicial committee and a DF to strain my family and marital relationships. I choose not to have those
  things- WTS has done enough damage to my life. If you feel the need to share what you learn, I offer
  you a pat on the back- GO GET THEM.
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  Are we in Christ's 1000 year reign yet?

  by undercover in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  something that gets lost in the debate over whether the wts ever claimed in print that armageddon would come in 1975 is that they did teach, in print, that 1975 would be the end of 6,000 years of man's existance on earth.. what significance is that?

  according to the wts, in print, jesus would start his new 1,000 year reign of peace at the start of the new "millenium".

  satan would be abyssed, war will end, the wicked destroyed.. whether the wts said in so many words, "armageddon is coming in 1975" or not, it is strongly associated with the then coming 1,000 year period of peace and rule by jesus.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Brenda,

  can we get an amen?

  If we are in Christ's 1000 year reign, he's a rather shitty ruler.
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  Older WT quote reveals attitude toward disfellowshipped family members

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey, i discovered this older quote from reexamine.org.

  i could not believe how serious it was about what a family .

  member was not allowed to do with a disfellowshipped .

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  OnTheWayOut

  bennyk
  	The law of the land and God’s law through Christ forbid us to kill apostates, even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship. You can almost feel their dismay; after all, if you can't kill YOUR RELATIVES, who can you kill?

  I was totally stunned by that statement, also. I hoped someone else brought it up.
  Having a relative who stops believing the WTS, or who leads a sinful life- This should
  give a JW the right to KILL him? Show me the son or daughter who will do that to
  his mother. They may rat you out to Big Mother in the warped name of Governing Body Justice
  but this organization goes too far. This is evil.