i felt it might be a good idea to post this so that sitting on the fence jw's or jw lurkers can see that this australia jw child abuse news of 1,006 jw child molesters not being reported to police by elders is a reality that has hit mainstream news media.
i thought this report was very well done.
here's the link : http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/07/28/australia-jehovah-witness-sex-abuse-hannigan-lklv.cnn.
I have been a bit busy and haven't caught up with this story until just now.
WTF (Watchtower Farms) is up with this organization. There were that many to cover up and none of those cases was reported to police.
I wonder how I can share this with my wife. Maybe I will leave the link right in the middle of the screen on the laptop.
if you have a facebook account head on over to: https://www.facebook.com/groups/flagsoftheworld/.
they're discussing the jw flags that showed up at the rc.. one jw seems to be asking why would it be strange for the wt to have a flag for their religion.. i dunno, maybe because flags can be symbolic idols according to previous wt teachings?.
hello all, it's been a long time since i have posted.
well, things have not changed on my end.
i am still going thru the motions.
One thought on going to the meetings for your wife's sake.
The kids hate it. You hate it. I know you go for her sake, but does that really help? I say this because you may just be keeping her sure that you will one day hear the right talk to bring you back or else something at the meeting will bring you to your senses.
I would consider telling her how much you love her but want to stop going with her to the Kingdom Hall because of the repetitive crap that just isn't true and you want to go do something else with the kids while she's gone.
http://www.pressreader.com/usa/honolulu-star-advertiser/20150725/281848642300889/textview.
it sounds to me like he was a jw before he became a physician.
"kalauawa, who became a jw 31 years ago, said he had to overcome a major conflict between his religious and professional beliefs, because jws are opposed to blood transfusions.
I picture the scene with this doctor's cognitive dissonance.
"You need a blood transfusion right away. Doctor Smith, please sign this."
"Hee hee, I got away with it again. Jehovah must love me."
a friend of mine that is df went to hall today someone held door for him he thanked them ,soon after and elder aproached wispered in his ear "you cant talk to anyone" the pharisees .
Actually, a DF'ed person is free to talk to anyone they want to talk to. It is the faithful JW that must not talk to THEM. Even there, they play the cat-and-mouse game of saying that people CHOOSE to shun the person. We all know that's nonsense.
If you want to be reinstated, yes- you have to play the silent game. But what an ass-hat for shooting someone down for saying "Thank you."
http://www.pressreader.com/usa/honolulu-star-advertiser/20150725/281848642300889/textview.
it sounds to me like he was a jw before he became a physician.
"kalauawa, who became a jw 31 years ago, said he had to overcome a major conflict between his religious and professional beliefs, because jws are opposed to blood transfusions.
a man couldn't hold an appointed position in a congregation if he was in university because of setting a bad example for others, especially the youth.
I bet they accepted his money, gave him pats on the back for his achievements, and down the road after it was said and done, made him an elder. Some things never change. "Don't go to college" is a cry they make because many will wake up and leave the Witnesses. So if someone dares to defy but remains with the JW's, well.....they are a huge asset.
The whole piece sounds like a propaganda story that Headquarters could have written (or at least dictated) adn submitted to the news. The article has not only the doctor, but a couple with a little girl afterward. It "normalizes" the JW's. I could write the between-the-lines stuff: "WE HAVE DOCTORS, THEY DON"T DEPRIVE ANYONE OF BLOOD." "He uses his education to his advantage in the ministry." "You should all average 5 or more hours every weekend and use vacations to put in more hours." "Drag your little girl in service until she finds it normal."
if ray franz would have kept his mouth shut and not disfellowshipped, and remained part of the governing body how many of us ex-jw would still be trapped in the cult?.
would we have come this far?.
When I had posted for the first time on this forum, I had yet to ever hear of Ray Franz and his books. The internet was loaded with information that helped me to escape, but it was me that started the search. So take some of it out and there was more to replace it.
But yeah, Ray Franz was just the man to write about the Ivory Tower and what really goes on.
for those who know my story my hubby and i are almost a year out of the organization!
my due date is right around the corner and still no word from my hubby's family.
they are hardcore.
So sorry to read of his family caught up in the JW rules.
and his response.....does anyone know???
Don't get me wrong, but I learned right away that they do things that way when I was appointed an elder. Since there really wasn't anything I could do to stop it, I magnified it instead. Any member in trouble in my congregation was my family member. If I could help them, I would tell them what the body of elders needed to hear or not to hear. But plenty of people got assigned to plenty of different elders. And when they have an agenda, there's nothing you can do. But your husband didn't just "get in trouble." He's outta there. He does need to try to just move on.
i just found this website and im so glad because for the first time in a long time i dont feel alone...i am a born in and in the last two years have been struggling because i thought that i was the problem and i was the reason for not feeling any love from and for the other pubs .i want to leave the org but have no idea how to tell my mother(who is a faithful jw).
Welcome,
You have made a giant leap of a step in seeing the problem for what it is. You will need to take some time to figure out the path you must follow. I assume by your name that you are a teen living at home.
Slow down until you know your next step. Some decide to be brutally honest, others decide to bide their time until they are on their own then slide away from the JW organization. One path may be disastrous for your mother and the other may be too much to ask of you. You have to figure that one out, and maybe even figure other alternatives.
based on information to be found at: http://www.csicop.org/si/show/when_dont_the_highly_educated_believe_in_evolution_the_bible_believers_effe/.
the bible-believers effect.
those who believe the bible is the word of god (bible believers) and those who dont believe the bible is the word of god (bible nonbelievers) differ in their beliefs that humans evolved from earlier species of animals.
As a former cult member, I know that certain totally wrong beliefs and intelligence are not often connected at all. A JW or a fundy Christian may not desire to be "intellectual" but otherwise, the one doesn't necessarily affect the other at all.
It can, though. A person can turn off their logic when it comes to science or when it comes to needing proof of their beliefs. But otherwise, most Bible believers seem to bathe in their cognitive dissonance. They can understand evolution as good as the next person whether they believe it or not, they can have intellectual discussions on issues or philosophies.
Before you go finding plenty of exceptions, there are plenty of exceptions in all belief systems. Plenty of people aren't much when it comes to being "intellectuals."
