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  What those terrible worldly people are doing

  by JeffT in

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  yesterday there was a horrific crash on a bridge here in seattle.

  a dukw (wwii amphibious truck) tourist cruise lost control and hit a charter bus full of exchange students head on.

  four dead and about a dozen seriously wounded, many more in less critical condition.yesterday, canlis restaurant, located near the scene and one of the most exclusive eateries in seattle, closed for the first time in its 65 year history and sent out its staff with food for the first responders.

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  .....and the Watchtower told the local JW's to get those literature carts right up near all the action and for the local pioneers to have a full thermos of coffee as they sit there watching the worldly people "do something."
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  Results of the UK Cash Grab are in. The Accounts are Published. The Profit is Big.

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the charities commission website in the uk by law shows the accounts of all uk registered charites.

  this link is to the watch tower bible and tract society of great britain..

  http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/showcharity/registerofcharities/charitywithpartb.aspx?registeredcharitynumber=1077961&subsidiarynumber=0.

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  Pffff! A couple three lawsuits and that could be all gone.
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  E-Mail, Just recived. About Bethell adjustments.

  by DwainBowman in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just read an email from a friend, and she shared some very interesting emails from her friends about information on changes now happening at the bethels around the world.

  here is the email: .

  ---------------------------------thanks sally, jesus is directing the org and all decisions and instructions to us may not seem practical from now on, neither will we understand the reasonings behind many of the changes that the organization makes.

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  They did so well with telling potential members that if they study with Jehovah's Witnesses, they will be "persecuted" by family and friends. It was viewed as "prophetic." Virtually nobody noticed it was obvious that if you study with a cult, concerned loved ones will try to help you get away from that cult.

  So they did it again with this: "At that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. ALL OF US MUST BE READY TO OBEY ANY INSTRUCTIONS WE MAY RECEIVE, WHETHER THESE APPEAR SOUND FROM A STRATEGIC OR HUMAN STANDPOINT OR NOT."

  I can hear members now: "WOW, they were right on the money. Here's something just like they said. They must really have God's backing because that is so prophetic."

  They might as well foretell that "one day soon, you may no longer have your Kingdom Hall and we may ask you to just watch jw .org and keep sending your money in.

  Not all members will stay asleep for all these changes. Some will figure out that God's blessings are not on their financial arrangement.
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  It's 110% impossible to deny now: Video evidence of the Chile flags

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0auklk0uq8&feature=youtu.be.

  this video leaves no doubt whatsoever.

  the person who took the video got really close and the video clearly shows that the flag is behind the glass and behind the bars protecting the kingdom hall.

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  According to John Cedars' website,

  Chile has a special two-day national celebration, known as Fiestas Patrias, on September 18th and 19th. On these two days, ALL public buildings are to display the national flag, either on a flag pole or otherwise adorning the front of the building. Any institutions that refuse to show the flag do so at the risk of paying a fine.
  Though reportedly some congregations would rather pay the fine than display a national symbol on a building dedicated to worship, it seems not all the bodies of elders in Chile see it as a problem.
  Some have suggested that the disparity has been caused by congregations being instructed by the branch that they can decide for themselves whether to show the flag or not, but that if they refuse to show it they will be liable themselves for paying any fine. This has yet to be verified.

  If it were in the U.S., they could tell the authorities that the building belongs to Watchtower. I don't know who owns the building in Chile.
  
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  Latest Leaked BOE letter to Elders Oct. 4th

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  october 4, 2015. to all congregations.

  re: new provisions announced atannual meeting.

  dear brothers:.

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  All I know is that EVERYONE finally gets to graduate from The Theocratic Ministry School.

  
  
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  My True Identity

  by The Governor in

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  2. friends

  i write under the screen name the governor.

  why i chose this screen name was i felt strongly at the time (and still do) that the charterer itself from the walking dead tv series that is called the governor had a lot of qualities shared with the governing body.

  both had narcissism blowing out of their ears, both oppressed individuals for their gain whether it was for power and profits and both the governing body and the governor were able to reel people into their trap by charming outsiders in and giving them big promises that could never be fulfilled.

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  HELLO. Seriously, despite your not being afraid, you might consider editing the congregations and just leave the city. There are creeps everywhere. While the main people here are not creeps, there are lurkers who are. But whether or not, a big hello.
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  Did anyone learn the truth from having their prayers answered by a knock at the door and then eventually leave the JWs?

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know of one person who had a difficult life, prayed for help, got the knock at the door, got baptized and eventually left the jws believing they were a cult.. has this happened to any of you?

  and if so, did you still feel your prayers were answered at that time?.

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  I know of one person who had a difficult life, prayed for help, got the knock at the door, got baptized ....

  I was exposed to the JW religion as a child, but my mother was disfellowshipped when I was just a kid (because the end of the world didn't come). She went back, I did not. I got into "a difficult life, prayed for help." That's a nice short version. (If you want the long one, let me know in a PM.)

  It wasn't a knock on the door. Instead, my JW mother sent word through the organization that I was in a military hospital and two brothers called on me there.

  We can jump to "....got baptized ...." I think the point you are focusing on is that this was supposedly an answer to my prayers, but your example and mine would contradict that answer by leaving the Witnesses.

  ......and eventually left the JWs believing they were a cult.
  Has this happened to any of you? And if so, did you still feel your prayers were answered at that time?

  So I eventually figured out that Watchtower is a dangerous mind-control cult. It would be easy for me to say "There was no God involved in the first place, so no prayers answered at first nor later." But for the likes of Perry and others, let me say this:

  I was primed for whatever the reality of God was, whatever the beliefs. If God was Allah or the deity of any Christian denomination or something outside of all religion, I was ready to follow His/Her/It's/Their path for me. I begged for God's intervention and enlightenment in my life. If God wanted me, I was ready. If God allowed me to be sucked into the Jehovah's Witnesses at such a point in my life, then he's a dirty dog. He's wasted my decades and I ain't going to waste them with Him anymore.

  Of course, I know better. Psychology can fully explain what happened to me and science can amply demonstrate that man invented the gods. No gods involved.
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  Latest rumor - all WT construction "suspended", except for Warwick

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  heard 4th-hand, but from a full-on believer, so not likely to be an "apostate lie":.

  apparently, at bethel's morning worship this morning, it was announced that all worldwide wts construction is "suspended" for an indefinite time, except for the new world headquarters at warwick.. also, the "relocation" of remote translating teams is also suspended.. finally, there will be a "worldwide" reduction in bethel personnel.. all this came to me in a non-english language, and,as noted, 4th-hand.

  so it is possible something may have been lost in translation and/or in the multiple steps between bethel morning worship & me.. but if true, it would be quite stunning.

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  It all could be crazy dis-information before the annual meeting to see who is leaking things.

  It could be true and they have all the money from all the congregations and want some false sense of urgency so they can stop spending it......or they need the money for humongous lawsuits yet to be aired.

  I will wait and see.
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  My thoughts re Pope Francis

  by ctrwtf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so today i'm watching cbs news coverage of the popes visit to america.

  first, let me say i'm not religious at all at this point in my life.

  still a few things stood out to me about the news coverage of his visit.. first thing i wondered was if a gb member happened to garnish this much press (unlikely) what would his message be?

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  I think of the average JW laughing at these Catholics flocking to their "Rock Star" leader, then sharing their disgust with the blind lemmings of the Catholic Church with their fellow JW. Right afterward, the same JW finds himself tuning in to the Governing Body's message this month on jw . org that whatever instructions reach them from the organization are consensus decisions that came from Jehovah and they should obey whether they understand them or not.
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  Is the WT SLOW-ly Changing the importance of the Door to Door preaching work to something more profitable?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  its been a couple of weeks since a new c.o.

  was appointed to the circuit and im starting to hear tidbits of his talks..

  one brother told me that in one of his talks he asked the question; .

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  What they are saying is "You might not see it, but we are telling you that the carts are having immense success."

  What they are saying is "You will have to take our word for it that jw . org is hugely successful."

  What they are doing is cutting down on literature "placements" because that costs them money. They are bullshitting that the cart work and the internet are so successful.

  What they are saying is "Instead of going door-to-door, what we need is your money."