Posts by OnTheWayOut

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Brooklyn news on sending the elderly packing

by I am a Bible Student in

johnny the bethelite on this program talks about the older bethelites being targeted by watchtower.they are getting rid of those at bethel who are 65-87 years old, some being anointed even the widows of former governing body members who gave decades of loyal service time to the watchtower organization.. the reasons the very elderly are being expelled are money in that for their age range they cost so much to cloth, fed, and medicate, having problems from high blood pressure to dementia.

they include persons such as sister henschel whose husband had been a watchtower president and marian sydlik whose parents are long dead.. https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/jan-16-2016-johnny-the-bethelite-watchtower-insider-host-his-radio-program-from-brooklyn-ny .

OnTheWayOut

Johnny the Bethelite on this program talks about

That's as far as I needed to read. I decided to comment on just that.
Don't fall for any Rick Fearon crap, including Johnny.

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GB Members: What's the Story?

by Cold Steel in

over the past few decades i've met many individual jws, but i've always been curious about the gb members themselves and about service at bethel.

first, do gb members fraternize with regular rank and file members or do they only sell out each other?

when i was a methodist, it didn't take me long to figure out that our minister and his wife were frequently invited to dinner, but i never heard of him actually inviting members to his house for dinner.

OnTheWayOut

I am not personally knowledgeable about these individuals, but I know enough about the way the JW's work to say this.

These guys go around like rock stars at various conventions and events surrounding their visits. They fraternize some with the rank-and-file, but mostly with the local big-whigs, branch overseers and C.O.'s and the more well-known elders. When they travel, they don't stay in some family's spare bedroom and eat oatmeal in the morning with the family, and they don't sit in the back of some sister's Toyota Corolla. If not at an expensive hotel, they will stay at in upscale accommodations that are available through the JDubs with some money.

They are mostly taken to dinners/lunches at upscale restaurants and they never pick up the check. If they do go to some local members' homes for a meal, it is all for show like the Pope washing someone's feet.

When the Wizard of Oz was forced to come out from behind the curtain, he wasn't so intimidating. When these guys started appearing on video regularly, they had to lose some of their mysticism, mysteriousness. In many ways, they are laughable now. But they sought the limelight.

About the worst appearance (but most JW's will never watch it) is G. Jackson's appearance at the Australian Royal Commission where he basically says he is just a corporate officer in a narrowly defined job and has no idea about what goes on outside of his narrow assignment, and that he would appreciate recommendations from the Commission. Sad, but whether that is believed or not believed, it minimizes peoples' opinions of these guys as just bumbling idiots, incompetent kiss-asses, or scheming liars.

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"Fa La La"

by OnTheWayOut in

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out at the mall with mrs. otwo, she sees a shirt on the rack that was marked down from $25 to just $4.

she holds it up and says, "should i buy this as a workout shirt?".

i tell her "no, because as soon as you figure out what it means, you won't wear it anymore.

OnTheWayOut

Faye, here ya go. There is no mention of drugs.

Bob Dylan - "Everybody Must Get Stoned"

Well, they'll stone ya when you're trying to be so good
They'll stone ya just a-like they said they would
They'll stone ya when you're tryin' to go home
Then they'll stone ya when you're there all alone

But I would not feel so all alone
Everybody must get stoned

Well, they'll stone ya when you're walkin' 'long the street
They'll stone ya when you're tryin' to keep your seat
They'll stone ya when you're walkin' on the floor
They'll stone ya when you're walkin' to the door

But I would not feel so all alone
Everybody must get stoned

They'll stone ya when you're at the breakfast table
They'll stone ya when you are young and able
They'll stone ya when you're tryin' to make a buck
They'll stone ya and then they'll say, "Good luck"

Tell ya what, I would not feel so all alone
Everybody must get stoned

Well, they'll stone you and say that it's the end
Then they'll stone you and then they'll come back again
They'll stone you when you're riding in your car
They'll stone you when you're playing your guitar

Yes, but I would not feel so all alone
Everybody must get stoned

Well, they'll stone you when you walk all alone
They'll stone you when you are walking home
They'll stone you and then say you are brave
They'll stone you when you are set down in your grave

But I would not feel so all alone
Everybody must get stoned

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"Fa La La"

by OnTheWayOut in

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friends

out at the mall with mrs. otwo, she sees a shirt on the rack that was marked down from $25 to just $4.

she holds it up and says, "should i buy this as a workout shirt?".

i tell her "no, because as soon as you figure out what it means, you won't wear it anymore.

OnTheWayOut

Later, if I remember right, the cartoon version of Frosty has Santa giving him the magic hat.
That damned Christendom has to take over everything.

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It Is With the Heaviest of Hearts...

by AudeSapere in

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friends

.. source: http://eagles.com/news/266763.

it is with the heaviest of hearts that we [the eagles]...the passing of our comrade, eagles founder, glenn frey, in new york city on monday, january 18th, 2016.glenn fought a courageous battle for the past several weeks but, sadly, succumbed to complications from rheumatoid arthritis, acute ulcerative colitis and pneumonia.the frey family would like to thank everyone who joined glenn to fight this fight and hoped and prayed for his recovery.words can neither describe our sorrow, nor our love and respect for all that he has given to us, his family, the music community & millions of fans worldwide.cindy frey | taylor frey | deacon frey | otis frey|don henley | joe walsh | timothy b. schmit | bernie leadon | irving azoff“it's your world now”written by glenn frey and jack tempchinfrom the eagles’ long road out of eden albuma perfect day, the sun is sinkin' lowas evening falls, the gentle breezes blowthe time we shared went by so fastjust like a dream, we knew it couldn't lastbut i'd do it all againif i could, somehowbut i must be leavin' soonit's your world nowit's your world nowmy race is runi'm moving onlike the setting sunno sad goodbyesno tears allowedyou'll be alrightit's your world noweven when we are apartyou'll always be in my heartwhen dark clouds appear in the skyremember true love never diesbut first a kiss, one glass of winejust one more dance while there's still timemy one last wish: someday, you'll seehow hard i tried and how much you meant to meit's your world nowuse well your timebe part of something goodleave something good behindthe curtain fallsi take my bowthat's how it's meant to beit's your world nowit's your world nowit's your world now.

..... source: http://eagles.com/news/266763.

OnTheWayOut

Salute! The Eagles and Glenn Frey are up there with my favorites.

My favorite one as related to my feelings about the Jehovah's Witnesses:

"Already Gone" The Eagles

Well, I heard some people talkin' just the other day
And they said you were gonna put me on a shelf
But let me tell you I got some news for you
And you'll soon find out it's true
And then you'll have to eat your lunch all by yourself
'Cause I'm already gone
And I'm feelin' strong
I will sing this vict'ry song, woo, hoo,hoo,woo,hoo,hoo

The letter that you wrote me made me stop and wonder why
But I guess you felt like you had to set things right
Just remember this, my girl, when you look up in the sky
You can see the stars and still not see the light (that's right)

And I'm already gone
And I'm feelin' strong
I will sing this vict'ry song, woo, hoo,hoo,woo, hoo,hoo

Well I know it wasn't you who held me down
Heaven knows it wasn't you who set me free
So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains
And we never even know we have the key

But me, I'm already gone
And I'm feelin' strong
I will sing this vict'ry song
'Cause I'm already gone
Yes, I'm already gone
And I'm feelin' strong
I will sing this vict'ry song
'Cause I'm already gone
Yes, I'm already gone
Already gone
All right, nighty-night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYCPccFQHWA

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"Fa La La"

by OnTheWayOut in

jw
friends

out at the mall with mrs. otwo, she sees a shirt on the rack that was marked down from $25 to just $4.

she holds it up and says, "should i buy this as a workout shirt?".

i tell her "no, because as soon as you figure out what it means, you won't wear it anymore.

OnTheWayOut

Heaven, thanks for your thoughts. Pagans are everywhere.

OrphanCrow, Frosty has a magic hat. Mom and Dad must have missed that.

73

Im sick of my life

by BlackWolf in

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friends

sorry but i really feel like i need to rant right now.

recently my dad was made an elder so my family has been doing a lot more "theocratic" activities lately.

every morning i wake up and put on my itchy dress and stupid makeup and heels and then pretend that i love what i'm doing and that everybody is my friend when in reality i feel horrible and all the other teenage girls at my hall hate me for some reason.

OnTheWayOut

You have to resist baptism to have even a chance at a relationship with parents. Witness My Fury is right. With absolutely no excuses, just say no.

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Favourite Comedy Quotes

by LoveUniHateExams in

i wanted to post a serious, profound quote in stillin's thread but my mind went blank and i'm pretty crap with serious quotes anyway, so i put a jokey quote from the red dwarf computer holly: .

it's better to have loved and lost than to have listened to an album by olivia newton-john.. when a bemused lister asks why, holly replies "because anything's better than listening to an album by olivia newton-john!".

this got me thinking, what are everyone's favourite comedy quotes?.

OnTheWayOut

So this pair of Jehovahs Witnesses are at the front door telling me that the Bible tells them what's going to happen in the future, and that God is overseeing this door-to-door preaching. What a lie that is, because he didn't even duck or block when I punched him in the face.

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Im sick of my life

by BlackWolf in

jw
friends

sorry but i really feel like i need to rant right now.

recently my dad was made an elder so my family has been doing a lot more "theocratic" activities lately.

every morning i wake up and put on my itchy dress and stupid makeup and heels and then pretend that i love what i'm doing and that everybody is my friend when in reality i feel horrible and all the other teenage girls at my hall hate me for some reason.

OnTheWayOut

Please take to heart what prologos already said. If you can't wait it out until aduthood, then consider what berry gerry said.

Please stop fearing that your parents may shun you. Yes, they may. But you can do what is best for you then. If that happens, and even if not, you will need to develop new relations outside of that cult.

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Conclusion

by Esmeralda001 in

i decided to put an end to my affiliation with the jws for good.

this decision is not the result of an irrational impulse.

it is quite the contrary.

OnTheWayOut

I don't know more than I read here, Esmeralda001. But BRAVO to you. Get the hell out of there. You don't need all that negative and drama.

Enjoy your life. It sounds like you are young and have so much better you can do with your time.