Sorry to read of your woes with family. Judas Iscariot (the way he is written) deliberately betrayed Jesus for personal gain, then regretted it too late. I would tell my loved one that called me Judas that my intentions in saying things are out of love and concern with no personal gain and I only regret waiting so long to say such things in my attempt to retain family peace.
OnTheWayOut
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"It's a cult, mom."
by schnell inmy mom has been extensively texting me, trying to argue that the un ngo scandal is not a big deal and that the child abuse scandal is to instigate the great tribulation.
even worse, she kept saying how great it is that the gb is imperfect and fallible and that teaching changes all the time.
maybe it was aggravation or impatience, but i finally just snapped and told her, "it's a cult, mom.".
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OnTheWayOut
I came here ten years ago in the summer. I had just resigned as an elder, but had not been removed officially yet. Many many many changes for me, too.
Happy anniversary, and continue on.
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Forget about him on this thread, let's talk about something else!
by Iamallcool ini am no fan of donald trump at all.
i am getting tired of seeing trump topics here on jwn.
i was hoping that hillary clinton would be elected so i can forget about donald trump once and for all.
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At least the Cubs won in November.
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Can Trump appoint his sons to his Cabinet?
by blondie inhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-cabinet_us_5824c2b2e4b05cf6a6435663.
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OnTheWayOut
The one that scares me is Dr. Ben Carson as Sec. of Education.
Quotes:
“ObamaCare is the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery.”
- So trying to provide healthcare to everyone is worse than world wars, 9/1, and the Civil War and nearly as bad as slavery.“Why did evolution divert in so many directions — birds, fish, elephants, apes, humans — if there is some force evolving to the maximum? Why isn’t everything a human — a superior human?”
On Twitter: “Amateurs built the Ark, professionals built the Titanic.”
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Help with fading, please...
by longgone ini just left about six months ago and i'm going through the emotional whirlwind that comes with it.
i would really appreciate some advice on how to keep this fade from turning into my being disfellowshipped.
i'm another born in, third generation.
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Freddo: Just shut the door on her and don't take her phone calls. Forever.
Use this stupid sister and her stalking of you to your advantage. Ignore every attempt by any elder to engage you in conversation. Firmly tell them to leave you alone.I have to agree. You are at such a terrible point in time with the locals. Just shut them out of your life and advance your fade with leaps and bounds- that's what I would say.
I know it's hard to do. But let everyone think what they think.Screen all your calls. You can tell anyone that wants to visit your home that they must call from their cell phone as you won't answer the door. If any JW's try to stop you getting out of your car or at the market, just be strong and say "I am not discussing it." If you need to say more, add "...As long as that sister is free to harass me and you elders don't call her off, I cannot talk to you either."
The main thing about a fade is family. You lose "friends" and have to adopt an attitude of "don't give a crap" about some crazy pioneer sister or the elders. Just don't do anything openly to cause them to take judicial actions. Meanwhile, talk about normal non-JW things to family to the best of your ability. Let them misunderstand and don't even try to explain anything about your fade to them. "Let's not talk about that. Let's talk about good things, family matters." That should be enough.
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What if one of the GB members suddenly needed blood?
by StarTrekAngel inthere is not much to be analyzed.
in a cult enviromment the leader will always look up for himself.
he would never hesitate to break every rule to save his own skin.
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Who is to say whether a GB member has ever had blood or not? They just would not tell anyone.
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Fifteen years later, I went to the UN in person.
by biblexaminer inof all the things that the watchtower has done wrong, what would you say is the singular most powerful thing that you could point a jw to, to crack their eyes open?
what is the singular thing that can be expressed bluntly and conclusively that might shock a jw to their senses?
if you could only carry one arrow in your quiver on your way to war with watchtower, what would it be?.
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what would you say is the singular most powerful thing that you could point a JW to, to crack their eyes open?
The UN thing, they will say, was just for the Library card.
I would go with flip flopping on "generation" as Armageddon never arrived according to their timetable and mostly to the laughable "overlapping generation." -
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2016 death of my father who told me don't come back if your a Witness...still hurts my soul! Warning you all!!
by Witness 007 ini last spoke to my father in march 1990. we finished a "quick build" kingdom hall and i had a 17 year old spiritual awakening and decided to drop high school to pioneer full time.
(yes i was a dumb ass) he was not happy since my parents were divorced he was catholic.
we had a arguement and he said stay in school get a degree...and dont come back if your a witness!!
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So sorry to read of your loss. You were bamboozled, it wasn't that you were a dumb or rotten son. You are like your dad so you probably understand the stubbornness on both your parts to never repair the damages. Nothing can make up for lost time, but it sounds like your dad did the best he could to move on and would hope that you do the same after you mourn your loss.
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Give my Cubbies some love!
by JRK inhow many of you think the cubs deserve a world series championship for the first time in 108 years!?.
jk.
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A Ha
What's up with her thumb?Did she have thumbs in the pic? I didn't notice.
I saw the pitching breakdown in Game 1 and said "Cubs in 7." I wavered from my faith after Game 4, but believed strongly again in Game 7. Then, in typical Cubs fashion, it could not just be a victory when they were up for almost the entire game. It had to be a comedy of errors and over-management that brought it back to dead even before it was finished, and a rain delay for the extra inning. And even the two runs in the top of the tenth were not enough as the Indians got one back and put a man on base to make a single pitch decide who would win the series- a strike out pitch, an out in the field, or a walk-off 2-RBI homer.
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Generation of 1914 enjoys another Cubs World Series win!
by OneGenTwoGroups infor the first time in 108 years, the chicago cubs won the mlb 2016 world series, which is not news to too many of us.
but the volunteers at warwick bethel have an interesting opportunity today.
they can congratulate tony morris on seeing another chicago cub win.
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OnTheWayOut
Just like Armageddon, this Cubs victory is about 102 years late.
The Jehovah's Witnesses have much in common with the world of the last Cubs World Series victory.
It's probably even prophetic as everything prophetic in Watchtower Land seems to happen in or near October.
Just like the 1908 Cubs lived in a world with no Mother's Day or Father's Day, so the Jehovah's Witnesses still do today.
Just as probably virtually all major league baseball players in 1908 never went to college, so it is for the majority of JW's today.
The first Model T Ford was produced in 1908 and later, the 4 door sedan was to become the standard for all JW's.Before taking the field that spring, the 1908 Cubs heard about something new in New York City- a 700 pound ball with a 5 foot diameter was dropped from a flagpole at Midnight to mark the start of 1908. JW's would have heard about that too and have learned to drop the ball all the time when it comes to the passing of time. (Okay, that one was a stretch.)
The practice of putting Gideon Bibles in hotel rooms was started in November of 1908 in Superior, Montana. The Witnesses have been trying for 100 years to put their Bible within arms reach of people since about that time, too.And the greatest (and maybe most prophetic) thing the 1908 Cubs and the Jehovah's Witnesses have in common is that, after awhile passed without further victories, people started to feel for the Cubs and they even became the Lovable Losers. This actually created their fan base and has helped sell Cubs merchandise throughout the years. Many people feel sorry for the JW's because their precious Armageddon never gets here. While they don't really form a "fan" base, the same people who feel sorry for them often take their literature out of pity and give them a dollar.
