I do love your response text. she is also putting more "blame" on you rather than her son. You spoke up first, so she decides she can briefly soeak to him.
Stay strong.
OnTheWayOut
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Update on MIL shunning
by BeautifulMind inhello on this beautiful sunday!
just a quick little update to the post i made a few months ago about my mil shunning us.
quick recap: during a convo after she attended the rc and was going on and on about how powerful it was and how great the videos were, blah, blah, blah...i couldn't take it anymore and told her that's not our lives anymore and i didn't want to hear anymore about it and to please respect that and move on to something else to talk about.
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When leaving was due to "Sin" and not Apostasy
by Cat2016 init has been 18 years since i decided to leave and fade away, and at that time i was feeling a lot of pressure that i wasn't doing enough, didn't fit in with the folks in my congregation, and was unhappy in my young jw marriage.
needless to say i recklessly went and had an affair that left me pregnant.
i did not know what to do, i panicked and got major anxiety.
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OnTheWayOut
Discovering that virtually everything you know to be true is a lie is very disturbing. While recovery is a long road, you started it. That is a huge accomplishment.
It's okay to not know what is "the truth" or the path you will (or should) take from here. Relax about that.
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"It's a cult, mom."
by schnell inmy mom has been extensively texting me, trying to argue that the un ngo scandal is not a big deal and that the child abuse scandal is to instigate the great tribulation.
even worse, she kept saying how great it is that the gb is imperfect and fallible and that teaching changes all the time.
maybe it was aggravation or impatience, but i finally just snapped and told her, "it's a cult, mom.".
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OnTheWayOut
Sorry to read of your woes with family. Judas Iscariot (the way he is written) deliberately betrayed Jesus for personal gain, then regretted it too late. I would tell my loved one that called me Judas that my intentions in saying things are out of love and concern with no personal gain and I only regret waiting so long to say such things in my attempt to retain family peace.
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OnTheWayOut
I came here ten years ago in the summer. I had just resigned as an elder, but had not been removed officially yet. Many many many changes for me, too.
Happy anniversary, and continue on.
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Forget about him on this thread, let's talk about something else!
by Iamallcool ini am no fan of donald trump at all.
i am getting tired of seeing trump topics here on jwn.
i was hoping that hillary clinton would be elected so i can forget about donald trump once and for all.
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OnTheWayOut
At least the Cubs won in November.
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Can Trump appoint his sons to his Cabinet?
by blondie inhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-cabinet_us_5824c2b2e4b05cf6a6435663.
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OnTheWayOut
The one that scares me is Dr. Ben Carson as Sec. of Education.
Quotes:
“ObamaCare is the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery.”
- So trying to provide healthcare to everyone is worse than world wars, 9/1, and the Civil War and nearly as bad as slavery.“Why did evolution divert in so many directions — birds, fish, elephants, apes, humans — if there is some force evolving to the maximum? Why isn’t everything a human — a superior human?”
On Twitter: “Amateurs built the Ark, professionals built the Titanic.”
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Help with fading, please...
by longgone ini just left about six months ago and i'm going through the emotional whirlwind that comes with it.
i would really appreciate some advice on how to keep this fade from turning into my being disfellowshipped.
i'm another born in, third generation.
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OnTheWayOut
Freddo: Just shut the door on her and don't take her phone calls. Forever.
Use this stupid sister and her stalking of you to your advantage. Ignore every attempt by any elder to engage you in conversation. Firmly tell them to leave you alone.I have to agree. You are at such a terrible point in time with the locals. Just shut them out of your life and advance your fade with leaps and bounds- that's what I would say.
I know it's hard to do. But let everyone think what they think.Screen all your calls. You can tell anyone that wants to visit your home that they must call from their cell phone as you won't answer the door. If any JW's try to stop you getting out of your car or at the market, just be strong and say "I am not discussing it." If you need to say more, add "...As long as that sister is free to harass me and you elders don't call her off, I cannot talk to you either."
The main thing about a fade is family. You lose "friends" and have to adopt an attitude of "don't give a crap" about some crazy pioneer sister or the elders. Just don't do anything openly to cause them to take judicial actions. Meanwhile, talk about normal non-JW things to family to the best of your ability. Let them misunderstand and don't even try to explain anything about your fade to them. "Let's not talk about that. Let's talk about good things, family matters." That should be enough.
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What if one of the GB members suddenly needed blood?
by StarTrekAngel inthere is not much to be analyzed.
in a cult enviromment the leader will always look up for himself.
he would never hesitate to break every rule to save his own skin.
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OnTheWayOut
Who is to say whether a GB member has ever had blood or not? They just would not tell anyone.
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Fifteen years later, I went to the UN in person.
by biblexaminer inof all the things that the watchtower has done wrong, what would you say is the singular most powerful thing that you could point a jw to, to crack their eyes open?
what is the singular thing that can be expressed bluntly and conclusively that might shock a jw to their senses?
if you could only carry one arrow in your quiver on your way to war with watchtower, what would it be?.
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OnTheWayOut
what would you say is the singular most powerful thing that you could point a JW to, to crack their eyes open?
The UN thing, they will say, was just for the Library card.
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2016 death of my father who told me don't come back if your a Witness...still hurts my soul! Warning you all!!
by Witness 007 ini last spoke to my father in march 1990. we finished a "quick build" kingdom hall and i had a 17 year old spiritual awakening and decided to drop high school to pioneer full time.
(yes i was a dumb ass) he was not happy since my parents were divorced he was catholic.
we had a arguement and he said stay in school get a degree...and dont come back if your a witness!!
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OnTheWayOut
So sorry to read of your loss. You were bamboozled, it wasn't that you were a dumb or rotten son. You are like your dad so you probably understand the stubbornness on both your parts to never repair the damages. Nothing can make up for lost time, but it sounds like your dad did the best he could to move on and would hope that you do the same after you mourn your loss.
