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  Angry and scared

  by BlackWolf in

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  i feel like everything that comes out of my mothers mouth is something negative and cringe worthy.

  all she seems to talk about with me is how terrible and demonic our disfellowshipped relatives are, how horrible the world and holidays are, or how she is so much better and "holier than thou".

  it really makes me sick sometimes.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Ah, to be 17 and think that my current situation is desperate and urgent.
  
  No, I don't mean to minimize. Of course you have huge obstacles in front of you. But take them slow and calmly and do your best. You will make real friends when you get some distance from the cult, perhaps not until you live on your own.
  
  If college is absolutely out with your parents, look for a way to focus on that on your own later. You will want to improve your financial outcome and it will take years, but you have years.
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  Guilt-Tripping Questions In Today's Text! (And My Replies To These Questions) 

  by Divergent in

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  thursday, december 8. take your stand against him, firm in the faith.—1 pet.

  5:9.. to do that, we need to prepare our mind and heart, to train ourselves now to do what is right.

  we do not know what our spiritual warfare may involve in the future.

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  1. "Do I persevere in prayer?"

  Before I left, I also prayed to Jehovah to convince me that JW's have the truth and also in my case- NOTHING happened!

  2. "When faced with peer pressure, do I obey God as ruler rather than men?"
  

  Isn't the question only asking JW's if they obey the elders and the upper echelon?
  

  Are you attending "Christian" meetings if you are at a church? ....or not attending if you are at a Kingdom Hall. Just more buzzwords for "Do it our way."

  
  

  4. "Am I bold in speaking about my beliefs?"

  Really, they are saying "Get your time in, so that we know we control you."

  
  

  5. "Do I really try to put up with my fellow believers’ shortcomings—just as they put up with mine?"

  This is saying that JW's are better than non-JW's so stop trying to see that it really isn't so. Put up with one another but not with anyone who is not a "fellow believer."
  
  
  

  6. "Am I submissive to those taking the lead in the local congregation and to those responsible for doing so in the worldwide congregation?"

  Repeat of Question 2, more direct. That shows that this is the important point. OBEY!
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  Lunch today with.. JW step father....

  by raven in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it has been a while since i've posted, i think its because i have finally gotten some peace and quiet as far as harassment from the jw elders.. my step father, the one who reported me to the elder police for a sinful act invited me to lunch today.. it has been almost a year since the incident, we have talked here and there, it has been just casual though.

  he says he is in town for work and asked if i would like to meet up for lunch, i couldn't think of any excuses so i agreed.. i hope it goes well, hope that we don't go into the jw nonsense.

  hope he doesn't bring elders with him, am i paranoid or what?

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  Thanks for sharing your story. So glad it wasn't a bad experience.
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  1st christmas ever

  by notalone in

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  2. friends

  so, i am around 50,4th gen born in- christmas.

  strange thing this christmas thing.

  i've been watching people this year, really watching them.

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  Happy holidays to you, to whatever degree you celebrate.
  
  Congrats on your first Christmas.
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  What is life?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i was a jobo, i used to thing of 'life without end at laaaasssssst'.. having been on my journey out of the wbt$ slaveholdery, i have found that something that makes sense is that life doesn't owe us a meaning.

  psalms 146:4 was actually bangeth on the money-eth 'his breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.'.

  although i am now very atheist, and really do not even think there is the remotest possibility of a god, that bible passage is correct.

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  Life is just a big accident, and your daughter is right- "just little things that bring joy each day should be good enough."

  Life has no purpose, so feel free to superimpose a purpose of your own.

  George Harrison decided that life has meaning with "you by my side."
  
  

  What I feel, I can't say
  But my love is there for you anytime of day
  But if it's not love that you need
  Then I'll try my best to make everything succeed
  

  Tell me, what is my life without your love
  Tell me, who am I without you, by my side
  

  What I know, I can do
  If I give my love now to everyone like you
  But if it's not love that you need
  Then I'll try my best to make everything succeed
  

  Tell me, what is my life without your love
  Tell me, who am I without you, by my side
  Tell me, what is my life without your love
  Tell me, who am I without you, by my side
  

  What I feel, I can't say
  But my love is there for you any time of day
  But if it's not love that you need
  Then I'll try my best to make everything succeed
  

  Tell me, what is my life without your love
  Tell me, who am I without you, by my side
  Oh tell me, what is my life without your love
  Tell me, who am I without you, by my side
  

  What is my life without your love
  Tell me, who am I without you, by my side
  

  Oh tell me, what is my life without your love
  Tell me who am I without you by my side
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XFfUt7HQWM
  
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  WBATS = THE WIZARD OF OZ

  by UNCONDITIONAL LOVE in

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  2. friends

  i found this amusing and ironic, but in a nutshell.

  stay on the yellow brick road, do as we say and want, and we promise you courage, a heart, a brain and a ticket back home (spirtual paradise now/ physical paradise soon/ resurrection guaranteed )... .

  don't ask too many questions or look behind the big curtain, just believe us or you'll fall apart and die... (research or study on your own/internet/ researching the governing body leads to weakness and disfellowshipping).

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  And just as in that story, the characters received nothing from "The Great Oz" that they didn't provide to themselves.
  
  To nail the comparison, it is very important to have a "Toto" if you find yourself in the the Land of Watchtower.
  Toto may have gotten Dorothy into trouble, but Toto also revealed the truth of the Great Oz, pulling the curtain back. Your "Toto" can be personal research or a loving family member or perhaps getting disfellowshipped or seeing the horrible treatment that Watchtower dishes out to another person.
  
  It's too bad that so many munchkins Jehovah's Witnesses would scold Toto for pulling the curtain back, perhaps even deciding to shun him from that point on for what he did.
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  Looking for a bit of advice in a difficult situation

  by Oversteer in

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  2. friends

  i'm looking for a bit of guidance here and not really sure where to turn.

  maybe someone has been in a similar situation and can help me out.. currently i'm an awake, baptized jw.

  have been for a few years.

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  Any updates?
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  Indoctrination or Education? Grooming Minds

  by Tech49 in

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  dear friends,.

  i came across this video a while back.

  after thinking about it for some time, i wanted to share.

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  OnTheWayOut

  I always like theramintrees vids.
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  The Book of Mormon

  by dubstepped in

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  2. friends

  my wife and i went to see it today at the encouragement of some of our new friends.

  we laughed until we cried, and it was so cathartic to sit in a room full of hundreds of people laughing at the ridiculousness of religion.

  sure, the subject is mormonism, but it was very poignant and applicable to all religion.

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  Yeah, Blondie and I went together (with her husband and and 12 others).
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  Have any ex-jws considered joining the Bible Students?

  by Rainbow_Troll in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  their fundamental beliefs are much like jehovah's witnesses sans the paranoia, authoritarianism, stifling rules, and end-times enthusiasm.

  you don't even have to become a bible student to be saved, you could be an idol worshipping heathen and still get resurrected in the milenium.

  if i still believed in the divine inspiration of the scriptures, i would be a bible student.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Lucky for me, along with research to reveal that JW's were a cult, I also researched the roots of JW's which would include the crap that Russell developed from his Millerite beginnings and would include the Bible itself.

  So I won't be led astray by any religious crap anymore.