Posts by OnTheWayOut

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Some Other Terms For The "Big Bang".....

by titch in

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folks: as you probably all know, it has been speculated that the whole universe, or cosmos, started with what has been called "the big bang.

" but, i've thought up some other terms for the "bb".

how about the big boom....or, the big kaboom....or, the big explosion...the big ignition...or...the big cosmic fartation.

OnTheWayOut

TOOTS- The Opposite Of The Singularity

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Do You Think Trump Will Make A Comeback?

by minimus in

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do you think he could get reinstated as president?

do you think trump will run again for president or do you think he will just be a force for the republican party behind the scenes?.

There is nothing coming out of the biased bogus recount and there is no provision within the Constitution for overturning the election results.

Donald would certainly want to run again. Even with a snowball's chance, it's a great way for him to steal more money. But I do think that he has lost millions of followers who have figured out what he is. If he is not liquidated for criminal tax evasion, he won't have enough support to win the nomination.

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Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

by joey jojo in

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-19/sa-church-of-the-flying-spaghetti-monster-proposal-rejected/100228038.

so this religion is a hoax?.

it seems just as legit as another religion i can think of..

OnTheWayOut

The last line of the article is part of a statement from a spokesperson:

"Satire does have a serious purpose, because satire makes people think."

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New site on reddit specifically for ---- GEN-X eXJW

by pistolpete in

yesterday or a few days ago a site started specifically for gen x -exjws.

it caters to those born in the 60s to around 70s and some 80s yesterday it had 2 members, today it has 102 members.

keep in mind that for most of these gen x, there was no internet, no mobile phone, heck, i don't think there was even cable tv.

OnTheWayOut

I guess I cannot join. I was born in late 1964 and this group is for those born between 1965 and 1980.

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JWs don't have any problems

by neat blue dog in

they never get disgruntled and leave, they never abuse children, they never sleep around or steal.

because if they were a true jehovah's witness they wouldn't do that, and if they do something wasn't right with them to begin with.

anybody else heard this "logic"?

OnTheWayOut

No True Scotsman Fallacy for JW's

P1: All X are Y....[or no X are Z] (No Jehovah's Witnesses would fornicate.)
P2: Clearly, not all X are Y. (Brother Smith fornicated.)
C: All true X are Y. (No TRUE Jehovah's Witnesses would fornicate, MISTER Smith is no true JW.)

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What Is Truth?

by minimus in

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just because you believe something as truth, it doesn’t make it truth.

religious leaders may be admired and believed but they could be dead wrong.

politicians can spout out “facts” that support their truth yet once further evidence comes through these facts are questionable.

OnTheWayOut

Otwo, you do seem fixated on Trump. Is it true ?? Lol

I just like to stroke you because you don't accept what the truth is about that.

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What Is Truth?

by minimus in

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just because you believe something as truth, it doesn’t make it truth.

religious leaders may be admired and believed but they could be dead wrong.

politicians can spout out “facts” that support their truth yet once further evidence comes through these facts are questionable.

OnTheWayOut

Minimus: True versus not true. I don’t care what you believe or don’t believe. If it’s true than it’s true. If it’s not, it’s not.

This is from a person who thinks that "there was a conspiracy to make sure Trump wouldn’t remain President" across different states, despite the facts that there were not thousands of illegal votes found in any of those states. As Dave Wasserman, House editor of the nonpartisan Cook Political Report, told USA TODAY-

"The case for Trump having won the election is so preposterous that the only explanation is that the losing side does not like the results..."

And no, I am not here to argue the election. I am just saying that humans do not abide by "If it’s true than it’s true. If it’s not, it’s not."

Waton, I think you miss my point. Humans don't limit "truth" to objective facts tied to science, like the degree or intensity of heat present in our sun as expressed according to a comparative scale.

Just the very asking of what "truth" is leads to subjectivity.

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The Governing Body like todays Democraps

by mickbobcat in

the governing body is a lot like today's dems.

they want to keep the rank and file in a permanent dependent state.

keep them stupid and dependent and they can rule them forever.

OnTheWayOut

The Governing Body is much more like Donald Trump than any other politicos.
They think they are so smart and all others are just idiots that can be lied to if it helps their agenda, and smart people recognize they are actually the dumbest ones around, and doing the opposite of what they say would turn out better.

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What Is Truth?

by minimus in

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just because you believe something as truth, it doesn’t make it truth.

religious leaders may be admired and believed but they could be dead wrong.

politicians can spout out “facts” that support their truth yet once further evidence comes through these facts are questionable.

OnTheWayOut

Me: If they are not lying, they are telling the truth
Waton: OTWO, that is a very narrow definition of "truth".

That is not at all a definition of truth. That is a true statement that begins the discussion.
One's narrow perspective on the matter, the facts available- that is what they make into "truth."

Water is wet- from the perspective of an animal living on Earth.
Fire is hot- from the perspective of a lifeform that is living at a lower temperature than fire.
If I load a statement of truth with clarifications, it shows the subjective point of view:
The sun, the star that humans on planet earth orbit, has an average temperature of 5,600 degrees Celsius, which is a scale of heat based on the freezing and boiling properties of water on that same planet.

To say "The sun is hot" is subjective. To say "The sun is specifically [such-and-such temperature]" is still subjective. Our truths are possibly meaningless across the universe where completely different subjective truths can be found. It's easy to say we all know whose prospective we are talking about when we say "The sun is hot" but humans tend to think it's easy to know whose prospective we are using with just about anything, and it just isn't so. White people in the USA are sure this is a truth- "Cooperate fully with the police because they are just trying to maintain law, order, and public safety." But they forget other perspectives.

I didn't bother to say such statements because people can extrapolate that for themselves, or they can deny that with their own thoughts, proving that opinions on truth are subjective.

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Why did Lloyd Evans say in one of his latest video

by mickbobcat in

so i was watching an evans video he just put out where he was interviewing a man about how the cult treated his daughter who was rapped as a criminal.

the man said his wife's first experience with an apostate site was here.

i could tell by the look on his face he did not like that site and then could not help himself and said that he could not recommend going to this site.

OnTheWayOut

Lloyd made some huge mistakes and outed some people on FB who were not known to their families as anti-JW.
People on this forum called him out.

Oh, and this- Lloyd basically said that he didn't need to apologize for his mistakes but said that here's your apology since you need one.
People on this forum called him out for that.

Lloyd has since tried to take advantage of ex-JW's financially in a few ways so that he could make a living out of his ex-JW efforts.
People on this forum called him out.

Watch your back around Lloyd. He asked ex-JW's if they wanted to have their life story in his next book, and he asked them to pay him to put it in the book. He admitted he would edit it in any way he wants without consulting them, and they could never have their story published anywhere else.