XBEHERE try this thread for some good advice.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120885/1.ashx
I wish I read it while I was still contemplating the first move out.
i have just decided to start posting, as has another elder "doubting brother" .
i guess that there are perhaps many out there who wish to post but are perhaps nervous.
well that is quite understandable.
XBEHERE try this thread for some good advice.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120885/1.ashx
I wish I read it while I was still contemplating the first move out.
hello all.. i have always wondered what feelings people have in the hours/minutes prior to getting baptised, the seconds immediately afterwards and then the first few hours thereafter?.
i've never done it, but it seems like it would be a real head f-!.
anyone willing to share their experiences?.
I thought it was a great day then, what I really wanted to do. Nowadays, I prefer not to talk about it much, it's a day I'd rather forget. It led to me wasting half of my life in a cult.
I side with fullofdoubtnow. I had a sense of euphoria. "This is really what I should be doing." Now that I know how ignorant I was
to be misled, I prefer to not try to bring back the memory of how good I felt while doing such a stupid thing.
at our special assembly day, there was a visiting speaker from bethel.
don't remember his name, but he was a humorless and austere gentleman who was very clearly a company man.
he said many questionable things, especially in the way he generalized about "the world" and "worldly ones.
Only JW's understand every scripture (according to the GB). I hope the parents are smart enough to say:
"You need to save up for retirement, instead of wasting your best years at Bethel before they
push you out the door with nothing. Besides, they never let you pick where you work at Bethel.
You want to work in a dental office, go to school."
Disney Characters would have a better future.
can anyone smarter than i am tell me how 30 million of estimated species of insects ( male and female ) survived the flood?.
did noah gather them all and take them into the ark?
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tell me how 30 million of estimated species of insects ( male and female ) survived the flood
In the belly of whales. THE JONAH THEORY.
what if.................there were no longer any consequences brought to bear on jws who no longer believe it is the truth?
no df-ing, no shunning, no loss of family.
what impact would there be statistically on the organization if those who are now 'just going through the motions' - just left?
Mass exodus.
There would be too many questions asked of those who leave. The GB would be afraid of their influence.
It'll never happen.
will there be any industries, with people working midnight to eight?.
will money still exist?.
If we have to sew our own clothes, make our own instruments, will we also have to make our own
air hover transport ?
Otherwise, your answers are making me LOL.
will there be any industries, with people working midnight to eight?.
will money still exist?.
What kind of TV programs will we watch?
Yeah, what kind of sitcoms and dramas could perfect people have? Will it all be nature and religious programming?
ok i am just a newbie.
but when your eyes are opened to lies that you believed you whole life...40 years and more.... it makes you angry, sick to the stomach and empty.
everyone i know....i mean everyone is a witness....what a mess i am in.. .
Consider this thread about getting out of the WTBTS the easy way:
ok i am just a newbie.
but when your eyes are opened to lies that you believed you whole life...40 years and more.... it makes you angry, sick to the stomach and empty.
everyone i know....i mean everyone is a witness....what a mess i am in.. .
I was right where you are at two months ago. Many were there or are there now. I was attending elders meetings, knowing I didn't belong there. I felt I had no place to turn to because family and friends were JW. I find much support here, and it's great to be able to vent, let it out, and somebody listens.
I have already made many positive steps toward getting out. I no longer am an elder. My wife is aware of my "doubts." I don't want to lose friends and family. Many choose to fade away, slowly, like me. Others decide they are ready to disassociate. Just keep reading, posting, meditating. You will know whatever it is that you need to do.
will there be any industries, with people working midnight to eight?.
will money still exist?.
When I walk up to a dangerous animal that is now peaceful, will it stand still while I kill it, or will we all be vegetarians?