so my parents had a meeting with me to talk about me not progressing spiritualy as i should be.
i felt like i was being interrogated in a nice way.
they want to know who i talk to and if my association at work good.
You are in a tough place, but it is good to remember that your parents are trying to do the right thing. They just happen to be wrong. As Daniel said already, "....they want you to be saved. They are indoctrinated in this belief."
If you can remain such a kind person to them, they should probably keep contact with you as you leave that religion as your own adult. Consider reading Steve Hassan's books to know how to deal with them better. COMBATTING CULT MIND CONTROL has been re-released.
why are there no jehovah's witnesses in heaven?.
because god and saint peter are behind the gates saying, "sssshhhhhh!
pretend we are not in!!
if only it was so easy to change our looks in real life........
life has been busy, but i am now on 2 weeks vacation which allowed me some thinking room.
and here's what's been on my mind.. we're all going to die.
no matter what we do, our fate is sealed.
You are on the right track with this thinking Punk. Surrender and become victorious.
Perry, I know you mean well. But you have to be careful when you are preaching. Just like your Bible can be made to say anything at all, your words can be taken more than one way. It's a dangerous thing.
In case you didn't notice, your words would most commonly be understood to say that Punk should commit suicide and then he would be victorious.
here's john oliver's take on how easy it is for religions to fleece vulnerable people in the us.
i had a few good laughs, but it's seriously disturbing at the same time.
read the article, but don't miss the video, it's hilarious.. john oliver sets up his new church.
I had just seen this video earlier today and wondered if I might post it here. John Oliver is awesome at comically just saying what we all want to say about things,.....well, what us liberals want to say anyway.
if only it was so easy to change our looks in real life........
I definitely did not care for the bat. I have thought of going more anonymous:
hey all.
i hope you are all having a good day.
just a quick update on our fade.
For some reason, I can't post on your thread. By clicking on the quote symbol, I got around that. I assume most people will have the same problem, and won't be able to quote. Anyway, you sound like wonderful people and that's a great update.
If I can make one suggestion, Try to enjoy life and consider fading fast in your situation. If you are not well-known, you only increase the chances that elders will get involved the longer you are popping up at meetings.
so you have had some kind of supernatural revelation, a personal message from god and some miraculous sign that you have been personally chosen by the almighty, what would you do?.
would you be the same as every other wt'ite, dragging yourself to the meetings, getting your 10 hours in each month, maybe pioneering?.
listen!
If I have been UNDENIABLY chosen, then I should have audience with that Almighty.
So I would ask him WTF he is doing? The 2004 tsunami, the 2010 Haiti earthquake, cancer, all birth defects, and most of all- "Why don't you just show people who you are and tell them what you expect of them?"
so i ran into this brother whom ive known for a while and the conversation led into me being invited to come back to the kingdom hall.
we talked for about an hour during which time i explained to him 607 being the wrong date and a lot of other stuff including the child abuse cases in australia.
but what i wanted to relate was the last few minutes of our conversation.
So everything that Watchtower says that can be proven wrong has been proven wrong, but everything that has no absolute proof that would be acceptable to this guy, like how man is only 6065 years old and Armageddon has been right around the next corner since 1914, is still right.
And regardless of how it isn't just a few bad men in the organization, but it is the Governing Body's policies and contributions to coverups that caused the pedophile problem, he will just say there's bad people everywhere.
been researching the mormons a little since they are quite similar to the jws.
they have a similar webpage and many videos to "help" the mormons in their faith.
i found this video done by abc4 news:.
A huge difference between Mormons and JW's is in counting membership. JW's still count those "publisher's record cards" for their numbers. So their numbers are of active members. But there may be quite a bit of cheating on those numbers. Peak numbers would include counting the same person more than once when they turn in more than one slip for current and past months. Peak numbers include the elderly that they decide must still be counted so someone turns in a slip for them. Peak numbers include parents that never go out in recruiting but turn in a slip for their home study with the kids, and others who never go out but turn in an hour.
Also, a huge percentage of JW numbers would be over 50 years old (many way over that) and there just aren't numbers coming in to replace them as they die. So they are in a similar situation as the Mormons, but may be a decade or two behind before it reaches a critical point of shrinking membership. Yes, that could be the future for the Watchtower.
