Posts by OnTheWayOut

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The Reasons for Cart Witnessing

by Simon in

whatever we think of it, you have to admit that it's quite "genius".. the door to door ministry as done in western developed countries where the jw quirky religion has probably reached their saturation level was a complete and utter waste of time in terms of the effort expended to recruit people.. at the same time, it was rarely something that anyone enjoyed which led to people being labelled as inactive, being pressured to doing more and maybe ultimately deciding jwism wasn't for them and leaving.. there was also the issue that many jws are actually pretty bad at knowing and articulating their beliefs so were pretty incapable of getting any meaningful message across.. they solved all this with the cart witnessing.

the real point isn't to recruit, it's to make life easier for jws.

now they can stand and chat with their friend, have a coffee, not talk to anyone or make eye contact and still act as a walking billboard for jw.org.

OnTheWayOut

The real point isn't to recruit, it's to make life easier for JWs. Now they can stand and chat with their friend, have a coffee, not talk to anyone or make eye contact and still act as a walking billboard for JW.org.

I haven't read all the responses, so I hope this was covered already.

The organization doesn't give a damn about making life easier for JW's. They just didn't want to keep printing so many mags and books that those damned JW's would eventually put in doorways of not-at-home-householders.
Householders didn't pay for them. The JW's didn't really pay for them because they felt they were doing enough giving their time and money enough for the Kingdom Hall and Assembly Hall.

Cart witnessing was about filling the cart with literature then letting it sit there. Less given out means less printing of stuff nobody was paying for. If it happened to make life easier for some witnesses, then they see it as a win-win.

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Why are EXJWs so rude ?

by Not_Culty in

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OnTheWayOut

JW's have their persecution complex that makes them feel like the organization is RIGHT, and they are attacked by Satan's world because they are RIGHT.

So yeah, anything negative at all is an attack of rudeness (or worse) despite whatever they say against the Catholic Church or any other religion being far worse.

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All the culty name that were used instead of JWs

by kairos in

jw
friends

the truththe society.

the friends...you remember.

OnTheWayOut

Jehovah's earthly organization

True Christians

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Leaders or liars

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

i was a thriving regular pioneer, doing all thr things wholeheartedly, had 16 bible studies, 7 attending meetings regularly, 11 magazine routes and 100's of rv's.

you can imagine i was always runnin out of literature and always a good list of books to order every month.

(not bragging,just stating facts.all this is wasted anyway).

OnTheWayOut

Well, he probably did you a favor contributing to your wake up.

I remember the KH needing a new literature person for 4 congregations. The elders in another cong. did not want me to do it because they enjoyed their first dibs on literature. As it turned out, they kept the lion's share of stuff that came in. If they wanted wgat somone else ordered, they would just take it and re-order it, sometimes doing it again and again for special requests.

I never got the job, they kept it with one of their guys. I told them what I thought of their ways, and that only made things worse

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How did the bible fables get started?

by Tameria2001 in

today while out running errands, i was flipping through the radio trying to find something to listen to.

i ended up on some christian type of station, and the guy was talking about the ark, and the flood during noah's time.

personally i no longer believe this fable, because the facts just don't line up.

OnTheWayOut

They only had story-telling way back. By the time they learned how to write it down, the stories were some real whoppers. Think Genesis and the book of Enoch, but also all mythologies had huge stories.

I think, just as we know today's movies are fictional, people tended to know stories were fiction back then. But that was somehow forgotten as the telling went on. Imagine some of our modern "based on a true story" or "inspired by actual events" movies becoming the accepted history in the future...or even worse- pure fiction is believed to be true. Think ABRAHAM LINCOLN- VAMPIRE SLAYER.

Let me indulge on another silly idea you WILL hear. There were baby animals and just dinosaur eggs on the ark. Or there were actually 3 arks, but the tale got simplified. One ark landed at Australia and the ark with dinosaus sank in some battle of faith. The third had Noah and the animals of Europe, Asia, Africa....and they walked a land bridge to the Americas. Can you see a great story-telling out of that?

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It's My Birthday Today

by pale.emperor in

today is my 34th birthday.

or, my 3rd birthday that i've actually acknowledged seeing as i was raised in the cult.. i woke up this morning to my 4yo running into my room and wishing me a "happy birthday daddy!".

i got a card from my ex-jw brother and i bought myself a birthday gift - a new 50mm lens for my nikon camera (photography is a hobby i took up since leaving the cult).. i dont know about you guys, but birthdays is still something i have to make a conscious effort to acknowledge and enjoy.

OnTheWayOut

I missed your thread on your birthday. So here's a late HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

I still love doing birthdays

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Explain Your Avatar

by new boy in

jw
friends

i know this thread has been done before.

however maybe some of the new comers might like to know.. my avatar is the cover of my first novel "your crazy life.

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OnTheWayOut

I changed mine quite a bit at one time. I was in a process of change. Even my name doesn't really fit my changes now, as I am far past on-the-way-out.

But there was a long time when we could not change our avatar. I currently had a picture of myself under a bit of a disguise- hat and sunglasses and mustache. I got used to being just myself, so I didn't even consider ever changing it again.

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Oh the irony!!!

by stuckinarut2 in

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friends

just wanted to share this funny thing.. so we have just been invited to a neighborhood xmas party to be held in the house of a lovely couple around the corner from us.. they bought the house a short time back from a jw who built it and lived there!.

so, we get to enjoy one of our first xmas parties as a couple, in the former house of a jw!.

now, that made me giggle.....

OnTheWayOut

Ha.

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What Do You Think Will Be The Next Big Change In The Watchtower?

by minimus in

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friends

i think there will be a change in the 144000 belief.

too many witnesses think they have a heavenly hope.

maybe 1914 will be discarded too.. what is your watchtower prediction?

OnTheWayOut

Take your food trash with you when you leave assemblies, bring your own toilet paper, soap and towels. Hell, how about bringing back the coin-operated doors for washrooms? Maybe an automated credit card gate to leave the parking lot. Maybe empty auditoriums without carpet or chairs where you bring your own folding chairs. Suggested donation amounts for borrowing their folding chairs. The speakers at assemblies have to pay for the privilege of speaking.

Watchtower will start doing everyone's taxes for free, and you will be marked if you don't use them. (.....and we know why they wanna do your taxes.)

And not in my lifetime, but soon after- more than the one overlap to the generation.

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The End of World War 1 was Exactly 100 Years Ago

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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friends

it is so amazing that the end of wwi was signed exactly 100 years ago!

and in just a few more hours, at 11:00am on 11 november 2018, paris time, the combat actually stopped!

(the war wasn´t officially over until 1919).it is such a historic moment, for the entire world, but also for jw´s, and for exjw´s.for almost the entire length of the war, the witnesses thought that the war was the prelude to armageddon.

OnTheWayOut

Yes, the Bible Students (not JW's yet) were told not that 1914 was the beginning of some long end-time, but rather that it was the end. And barring some last-minute "new light" that it was to be the start of Armageddon or a great tribulation, they expected the world war to develop into the great war of Satan vs. Jehovah.