6. Very content P.I.M.O.
JW GoneBad, you might well be a Very content P.I.M.O.. I would question that conclusion, but I don't know you. Let's just say there cannot possibly be a whole category of such people.
OnTheWayOut
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What is your status (as of today) as a Jehovah's Witness?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inactive believer...still attend meetings, go out in field service, believe it's ''the truth''.
active non-believer... go to meetings and field service to please family... living a double life .
inactive believer...don't attend meetings but believe it's the truth, one day might go back to kingdom hall.
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I am still not able to solve this God's name paradox...
by psyco ini am finishing to read the entire bible (nwt 2013) for my first time (my fault) and i wrote down hundreds, maybe thousands, of questions not clear to me, but one especially came in my mind meditating on god's name.. if i wanted to summarize the entire bible in one phrase i would say (even before the kingdom): god’s name sanctification.. god is jealous about his name.
he does everything for the love of his name, and he wants to be called and prayed using his name.
no doubt about all this (repeated several times in the bible), but it involves the pronunciation of his name.. god left us his name in the form of יהוה which is unpronounceable.
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I call bullshit on your conclusion that "If [you] wanted to summarize the entire Bible in one phrase [you] would say (even before the Kingdom): God’s name sanctification."
That definitely sounds like something you got from Jehovah's Witnesses and from my reading of the Bible and from reading the thoughts of people who study this stuff much more than even Jehovah's Witnesses do, the name remains unclear throughout. "Jehovah" or whatever is a warrior God of the early Bible and most people worshipped EL or Elohim, Eloah, Elohai, El Shadda. The Old Testament doesn't clearly point to the New Testament or to the Son of God.
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Is There Life On Mars?
by LoveUniHateExams inno, i'm not talking about the david bowie song, i'm asking does life exist on mars?.
opportunity rover (the one before the present one) took photos of strange, puffball-like sphericals seemingly sprouting on the martian surface.. these photos aren't conclusive evidence but it is an exciting area to investigate.. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9546225/scientists-claim-evidence-fungi-red-planet.html .
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OnTheWayOut
I do know this-
Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids
In fact it's cold as hell
And there's no one there to raise them
If you did
But seriously, I strongly believe in the Primordial soup, or prebiotic soup theory. Not necessarily the proposed theory of 1929 published by J.B.S Haldane where he argued that UV radiation provided the energy to convert methane, ammonia and water into the first organic compounds in the oceans of the early earth. Perhaps a better understanding of science such as the proposed idea that gases came from deep-sea hydrothermal vents, or perhaps something else that we haven't figured out yet.
It is unclear whether the conditions to create life could be common to the universe or unique to Earth. People want to believe that since mankind's science cannot yet reproduce the spark of life that it is a false theory or extremely rare. But I say we are in the infancy of our understanding, and we know that "the God of the gaps" keeps shrinking. So maybe we will figure it out one day. And for all we know, life has started more than once on Earth but the dominant life already present has "eaten" it up.
I further believe that with so many stars and so much potential out there, life has started somewhere else, probably more than a few times. But is it primitive, plant, microscopic, developed??? I dunno.
If life did exist at all on Mars, we have seen that life on Earth has clung to the most impossible environments, so I would bet that it's still there somewhere under some rock. -
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What is your status (as of today) as a Jehovah's Witness?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inactive believer...still attend meetings, go out in field service, believe it's ''the truth''.
active non-believer... go to meetings and field service to please family... living a double life .
inactive believer...don't attend meetings but believe it's the truth, one day might go back to kingdom hall.
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While I am clearly #4, why did you put "Bible is fiction" in that one? Sure, I accept that the Bible is fiction, but many do not.
There are plenty of #5's then. They are Inactive non-believers of the Watchtower, denying it has the truth and will never go back, but they are "believers" in some kind of God or higher level of spirituality or karma or something else. I have met those that believe in an afterlife and those that swear by another interpretation of the Bible other than that of Watchtower. -
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I talk to JW family. I am not DF'ed and occasionally talk shortly with my wife's friends. For the most part, we agree to avoid JW subjects. My mother breaks the agreement once in awhile.
But I lost all my own JW friends, and that's okay. I would have long ago gotten tired of treading lightly.
As for my wife's friends, I am occasionally invited to "fellowship" with them. I always decline. I have told my wife that as long as I don't "fellowship," the elders don't see a reason to "disfellowship." -
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I avoid the dubs except for relatives, and we have a pretty standard understanding that we don't talk dub stuff.
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my personal car plate
by stan livedeath inmy avatar is my personal plate on my mg sports car.. some years back a friend gave me a small model very similar to my car.. only today i noticed the number plate--spooky !.
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I cannot take a photo of my license plate for privacy reasons, but I got this number by pure coincidence while I was fading away and kept it through several cars.
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Drastic Upcoming Changes? (accelerated by the pandemic)
by JWTom ingood to see you again!
much discussion now about the fallout that is coming due to impacts of the pandemic combined with the long-term downward spiral of jw.org.
i am active as a pimo and my wife is pimi....much of our personal conversation and conversation with others in jw land focuses on how things will play out for jw.org in the next 12-24 months.
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They will go back to the Kingdom Halls, but many Halls will be sold.
C.O.'s are a big part of keeping them in check, keeping local elders in line. There will be C.O.'s. They could reduce their numbers, but I imagine they will keep visiting Kingdom Halls.
As they consolidate congregations to sell off Kingdom Halls, they will consolidate circuits. The huge reductions in numbers will be their cry that Jehovah has shaken out the unworthy ones and the end is closer than ever.
They might as well use the pandemic as an excuse to end door-to-door witnessing. It is such a time-waster and they really don't make any money from that work. They could push the cart witnessing or just declare that the end is closer than ever and so the warning message has changed. There will be some kind of monthly reports still. Gotta control the members.
I don't know why they would change anything about disfellowshipping. If they do, it would probably be a secret among the elders that disfellowshipping should be rare, but still drag members to a JC and reprove them. -
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They have to get their abacus out and calculate what will be best- sell the Kingdom Halls or continue to fleece the flock a little at a time.
I have a feeling that selling the Halls will take such a long time that they will decide to send the sheep back for regular meetings in order for them to drop money in the boxes while they attempt to sell off the Halls. -
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3 Types of People?
by minimus inas a rule, there are 3 types.
one is the dramatic over the top person where a hangnail means you might have to get your finger cut off.. the second type is —who me, worry?
i’m not going to let too much of anything bother me unless it really is armageddon.. the third type is the person in between.
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OnTheWayOut
There are 3 types of people
Those that understand math and those that do not understand math.
As you can see, I was wrong.
There are only 2 types of people:
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1. Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data