Posts by Beardo

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Would this offend you, if the government made this policy

by free2beme in

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friends

if the government had this policy .... given that 100% of the terrorist who did 9/11 were arab, and most terrorist are arab.

we as a government will racially profile the arab population and visitors to our country.

spending more time inspecting them, checking them out, and making sure that they are singled out and watched more then any other race.. would this offend you?.

Beardo

The Israelis use profiling and I don't blame them.

Yeah - the good old "Israelis" eh.

What a moral upstanding nation we have there - seizing other peoples territory, backed by the lovely Talmud/religious fanatics & international Zionists (not all Jews I hasten to add quickly, before somebody pulls out the racist card).

Funded by US war-mongers.

Seriously guys, they want you to hand over your rights to the state, and it sounds like some of your are bending over already awaiting the anal probe to arrive.

Think about what you are saying and who you are siding with here.

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Would this offend you, if the government made this policy

by free2beme in

jw
friends

if the government had this policy .... given that 100% of the terrorist who did 9/11 were arab, and most terrorist are arab.

we as a government will racially profile the arab population and visitors to our country.

spending more time inspecting them, checking them out, and making sure that they are singled out and watched more then any other race.. would this offend you?.

Beardo

I always think that if it offends one thousand people but saves just life then its worth it

You do realize that is a cliche generated by the brainwashing machine we know as the media and government don't you?

I live in a part of the UK where there are many Muslims, mostly peace loving. We have more trouble around these parts with white disaffected youths, who the police have very little power to control.

Yet, the government and police now have a policy in the UK where they shoot you first and then ask questions later based around fuk all.

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Would this offend you, if the government made this policy

by free2beme in

jw
friends

if the government had this policy .... given that 100% of the terrorist who did 9/11 were arab, and most terrorist are arab.

we as a government will racially profile the arab population and visitors to our country.

spending more time inspecting them, checking them out, and making sure that they are singled out and watched more then any other race.. would this offend you?.

Beardo

The Terrorists on 9/11/01 were 100% Arabs?

ROFL - there may be an element of truth there, but that hardly represents the full picture.

Kindly watch this:

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-7143212690219513043&q=911+mysteries

How could a rag-tag group of Arabs take out those buildings without insiders giving them a hand? Like priming the buildings with bombs to aid the destruction and then telling NORAD to stand down?

Larry Silverstein (a good old Arab name) also allowed one of his buildings to be 'pulled' (demolished) just to help maximize his insurance claims after the event. That building flopped to the floor with wicked style! A top job, down by experts who know their trade.

But of course, we all trust and adore our governments. They really look after the people and wage wars overseas that are fully justifiable.

For feks sake

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What musicians did JWs ban?

by love2Bworldly in

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ok i don't mean to copycat the other thread on movies, but it got me thinking.

i remember throwing out all my beloved beatle albums because they did drugs.

elton john was bad because he was gay.

Beardo

Pink Floyd - Another Brick in the Wall .... apparently around these parts, that song encouraged kids to rebel at school

My Reggae music was also frowned at for promoting false religion, so to my Latin Jazz - certain brothers just didn't like those funky jungle beats. In fact, if you think about it, depending on the company present, pretty much everything had the potential to come under fire.

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Do you buy into conspiracy theories?

by free2beme in

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friends

i guess since leaving the witnesses, i have become willing to listen to more things.

mainly because i learned in life, that if the religion you were raised to live and die for is wrong, and deceptive, then couldn't that be said of government and science?

so with this in mind, of the ones i am going to list below.

Beardo

I wasn't making a joke. A taxi that was damaged in the attack had a copy of the book The Children of the Matrix by David Icke in the front seat, practically had a piece of a light pole struck by the plane fall on it. I mentioned this only because I found this fact ironic, considering I had never heard of Mr. Icke until I read his 9/11 theories on the internet.

Fair enough, and a slightly bizarre fact considering the nature of David's books & research. The pentagon attack was truly whacky! - the video the FBI released recently has further fueled the debate. When analyized frame by frame, it still does not reveal a large aeroplane? The damage to the outside and interior walls is also not consistent with the official story. More smoke, mirrors and illusions.

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Do you buy into conspiracy theories?

by free2beme in

jw
friends

i guess since leaving the witnesses, i have become willing to listen to more things.

mainly because i learned in life, that if the religion you were raised to live and die for is wrong, and deceptive, then couldn't that be said of government and science?

so with this in mind, of the ones i am going to list below.

Beardo

Maybe i'm becoming increasingly cynical and 'self-preserving' as i get older.

I think we all feel that way to a degree. I know over the last few years my energy resources have been lower & lower, I wouldn't like to completely throw the towel in though, as there are some truly horrible things taking place on the planet at the moment and to be frank, I reckon we will see a whole lot more due to the weaponry out there and being developed.

The depleted Uranium used in Iraq and more recently in Lebanon is disgusting and I do not want my name associated with those choices.

http://www.cadu.org.uk/

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Do you buy into conspiracy theories?

by free2beme in

jw
friends

i guess since leaving the witnesses, i have become willing to listen to more things.

mainly because i learned in life, that if the religion you were raised to live and die for is wrong, and deceptive, then couldn't that be said of government and science?

so with this in mind, of the ones i am going to list below.

Beardo

Sadly though, there is very little we can do, even if they were ALL true.

Thats what 'they' want you to believe.

Empower yourself and others with knowledge. We may not be able to directly control the warmongers, but we sure can cast a few spanners in the works along the way.

@Leolaia

For one so educated, your comment is crass and ridiculous. Yes there are the 'looney' fringe adding information to the pot, but there are also sincere whistle blowers who risk their lives and sometimes lose their lives to help expose the powers that be and their dirty little schemes.

Do you think Dr David Kelly actually killed himself?

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Do you buy into conspiracy theories?

by free2beme in

jw
friends

i guess since leaving the witnesses, i have become willing to listen to more things.

mainly because i learned in life, that if the religion you were raised to live and die for is wrong, and deceptive, then couldn't that be said of government and science?

so with this in mind, of the ones i am going to list below.

Beardo

Of course - "conspiracy" exists in all walks of life, as do various theories and often theories can be perfectly reasonable.

There is a lot, a hell of a lot, of disinformation doing the rounds and learning to fine tune your bullshit detector to help you see through the smoke & mirrors is the key.

A lot of people outright 'poo poo' a lot of the alternate information offered by the underground network of researchers regarding the 9/11 attacks for instance, without even taking the time out to actually study what is being said.

I've spent between 2 and 3 years examining that particular event. I can see the holes clearly running through the official story. But try and present this information to a lot of people and they are either sarcastic or dismissive.

I know 'within my heart' that the subsequent war in Afghanistan & then Iraq could never, ever, be justified - so therefore there was a conspiracy amongst Western powers; concerning the decision to move East into that territory, using vile and bloody warfare against a rag-tag army and slaughtering 1000s of innocents in the wake of the war machine.

Isn't it a little obvious that 9/11/2001 created a prime opportunity for the Neocons & the UK Labour party (underpinned by a network of fraternities) to take action and start seizing territory?

They needed public support - FEAR = CONTROL - an old tactic. 9/11/2001 produced tangible fear and the reaction was "go get 'em" ......

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What top sientist say about 9/11

by jimbo in

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friends

interesting or not?

use your free thinking.

p;ease reply... .. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=403757&in_page_id=1770 .

Beardo

I'm not going to believe in any conspiracy unless the evidence is presented to me

Hi mate.

Yep, its wise to take stock of all available information before drawing any conclusions. But there are plenty of great websites and researchers out there presenting 'evidence' on a week by week basis. Also, some pretty cool DVDs with decent documentaries to look at.

Run a search on Google videos for 'Loose Change 2' & 'Terrorstorm' for starters.

It's actually quite easy to believe in 'conspiracies' - every major corporation is conspiring as I write this note, in order to extract our energy and have us slaving for them. you just have to cut through the obvious bullshit and look at information that seems reasonable and well documented. It just takes time & a little effort.

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What top sientist say about 9/11

by jimbo in

jw
friends

interesting or not?

use your free thinking.

p;ease reply... .. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=403757&in_page_id=1770 .

Beardo

Hi there folks... just cruised by to see what was going on (I've been out of the Watchtower for 16 years btw).

I wouldn't have believed that 9/11 was an inside job myself until I began studying 2 years ago. There are too many unanswered questions surrounding the whole event and a lot of evidence IMO including (off the top of my head):

1. Warnings given to officials before the day to clear out of the area.

2. The fire service being put on alert the day before (apparently).

3. Documents (on the record) saying that the US needed another "Pearl Harbour" event, presumably to mobilize the nation behind a war effort in the East.

4. Eye witness (or ear witness ) accounts on the day of large explosions in the basement area of one building before a plane struck - what the hell were those about?

5. Some of the guys (terrorists) who were supposed to have been on the planes as reported by the national media, were said to be alive after the event?

6. The fact that jet fuel will not reach the temperature necessary to melt the steel structure inside the towers and that the towers were built to withstand a collision by a large aircraft.

7. The fact that Larry Silverstein (the rich sod who owns most of the site) made a big heap of money out of the event and even 'pulled' building 7 after the event to maximize profits. It doesn't take Einstein to work that one out and see a trail of dirty money!

8. The fact that the Bushes & the Bin Ladens (do your homework) have historical links and joint business ventures and have been shielded by the US administration for years - another trail of dirty money.

I'll shut up - I could go on...

Another point to consider is this - Most of our world leaders, heads of the police force/military, industrial & media moguls are members of, or have ties with, fraternaties and orders. So it is true to say that there are many people working along side these ones without priviledged access to the inner sanctum of knowlegde and they haven't got a clue as to what is going on or what is about to take place. These ones, civil servants and the like, just follow orders and are 'yes men'.

Within the secret services - MI5/CIA/MOSAD etc there is a written and unwritten code of conduct. If you blow the whistle, there are consequences for that action. Would you tell tales when under oath if you or your family were likely to be got at? .... and if you don't believe this goes on and people are silenced for speaking out - go take a read of the Dr David Kelly debacle in the UK. MI5 (most likely) arranged his death.

These secret services do the bidding of their masters - the guys with the dirty money.

Anyway, just a few thoughts.