Do you buy into conspiracy theories?

by free2beme 60 Replies latest jw friends

  • free2beme
    free2beme

    I guess since leaving the Witnesses, I have become willing to listen to more things. Mainly because I learned in life, that if the religion you were raised to live and die for is wrong, and deceptive, then couldn't that be said of government and science? So with this in mind, of the ones I am going to list below. How likely are you to consider any of these as having merit?

    Was Kennedy really killed by a lone gun man?

    People say Johnson was involved. If you look at the tapes of the murder, Kennedy seems to react in the wrong direction for the gun shot. Etc.

    Did man ever make it to the moon?

    Why have we not returned, and almost seem unable to return? Why does the footage of several locations, seem to show the same back drop and sky-line? Why does the footage, when sped up, look like a normal person walking. Etc.

    Does the government cover up alien life?

    If there is no alien life, why does the government spend so much time trying to debunk the idea? Why did science and technology advance by such large leaps and bounds, right after the suppose Roswell crash?

    I am not saying I buy into all these, and many of the thoughts presented in some of the conspiracies have been shown to be false and wrong. Yet not all of them, and some seem likely to be something that the government would want to cover up for security reasons. What do you think, do you ask more questions now and accept things a little less at face value? Personally, I remember a time in my life, when I was told that all those people who said the Jehovah's Witnesses were a cult were uninformed and liars. Was that true? What else isn't?

  • Mary
    Mary

    Was Kennedy really killed by a lone gun man?

    I believe both JFK and RFK were killed by some very wealthy, powerful and well connected people.

    Did man ever make it to the moon?

    Yep, I believe we made it to the moon.

    Does the government cover up alien life?

    Not sure about this one......something weird is going on.....I'm just not sure what.

  • Twitch
    Twitch

    Interesting question. I know from my own experience that the process of questioning and eventually leaving the org required much questioning of authority and disregarding suspension of disbelief in external information that was somewhat akin to forming conspiracy theory as regards the org. I dare say I was susceptible to looking for and seeing the same everywhere I looked for a time. "What to trust? What is not tainted by the machinations of men of purpose?" It took time to get over the paranoia of the "world" that is intrinsic to identifying life as a dub. I don't doubt that there is corruption and coverups by those in positions of power, but as regards some of the theories you mention, I think there is too much chaos in people and events to successfully suppress the true nature of such events. Conspiracy theories without evidence are just that, theories. I think the mind has a tendancy to look for patterns where there aren't any sometimes to support what we would like to believe. Depends on the person really.

  • Justice-One
    Justice-One
    Was Kennedy really killed by a lone gun man?

    No way in hell. At one time there was even a competition to see if someone could do what he supposedly did with the rifle and scope they said he used. People from all over the country and perhaps the world competed, and nobody was able to do it. (Make hits with three rapid shots on a laterally moving target, with a cheap Carcano rifle and small scope. Then run down several flights of stairs to be seen calmly drinking a coke just seconds later.)

    Many things don't make sense, but in a nutshell here are two of the biggest. One....Oswald would have HAD to have been one of, if not the best rifleman in the world to make the shots he made. (Who would have known a great rifle and scope when he saw it.) TWO...would have the greatest rifleman/shot in the world have picked the very WORST rifle and scope combination for this job? I don't think so.

    Either that, or he was the luckest bastard ever born. And I tend to not believe in luck.

  • Amazing
    Amazing

    Hi Free,

    Kennedy: I used to believe that Oswald was a patsy, because of the way in which he was quickly killed by Jack Ruby, who had clear Mafia connections. Since watching some excellent scientific treatment of the assassination of Kennedy, I believe that Oswald did shoot, but not the fatal bullet. The evidence that Kennedy was killed from a shot in front of him, that knocked a piece of his brain to the back trunk lid, convinces me that at least two shooters were involved. As for who and why, I believe that the best culprits were the Mafia, and Castro's agents.

    Moon: Yes, men made it to the moon. All evidence supports this, and none contradict it.

    Aliens / UFOs: I have mixed feelings on some of what the government does. But, understanding science, physics, and the study of space-time, I doubt we have been visited by life forms from other planets and solar systems, and definitely not another galaxie.

    Conspiracies: Generally, most conspiracy theories are filled with bovine excrement. If a conspiracy is afoot, it will come out in time. When there is no conspiracy, and only allegations, they eventually get debunked. The foregoing are among the reasons that I no longer accept Watchtower allegations of satanic conspiracies, or allegations that Christendom conspired to destroy JWs, and so on.

    Jim Whitney

  • JamesThomas
    JamesThomas
    Moon: Yes, men made it to the moon. All evidence supports this, and none contradict it.

    Don't bet on that.

    Did We Land On The Moon? Fox TV special, 45 minutes. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1138935117048624484&q=moon&hl=en

    What Happened On The Moon? Part One, 2 hours 15 min.: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1913474363747128107&q=moon&hl=en

    What Happened On The Moon? Part Two, 1 hour, 30 min.: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5737681932896358451&q=moon&hl=en

    In my younger years I was, part time, a professional photographer. There is some very valid observations brought out in the above.

    j

  • parakeet
    parakeet

    No. I have great faith (based on evidence) in human beings' inability to keep secrets.

  • Beep,Beep
    Beep,Beep

    "Did man ever make it to the moon?

    Why have we not returned, and almost seem unable to return? Why does the footage of several locations, seem to show the same back drop and sky-line? Why does the footage, when sped up, look like a normal person walking. Etc."

    Amateur astronomers were able to track the moon missions. It's tough to fake the telemetry involved on such missions.

    As for not going back, America lost interest. However plans are now in the works to go back to the moon.

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    no I hate conspiracy theories and do not buy into them

  • JamesThomas
    JamesThomas
    I have great faith (based on evidence) in human beings' inability to keep secrets.

    The Manhattan Project (U.S. atomic bomb research) was kept secret for four years, even though billions of dollars were expended on it and tens of thousands of people employed by it. Then Vice President of the United States Harry S. Truman didn't even know about it. Within a few days of taking Presidential office he had to be briefed on the entire project. The first test being only 3 months away.

    j

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