i have read today this quote from one member on facebook going by the name of ruth eeker.. .
based on her quote, she states that "as well in regards to the un, the society has various name versions registered still in the un.
so they are still not completely out of the supposed beast!".
Thanks for that. I can see a double standard. It is so clear.
It strange that its not obvious to everyone.You can wiggle all you like, but whats good for the goose......
Does 'be no part of this system of things' only apply to the rank& file? It seems to be the case.
Agent Smith
it's weird putting two and two together after 40 years of have the two things separate.. my uncle was killed in a car accident in august of 1969. i was a child, but i remember my mother being very sad and crying and staying in her room.. it was in october of 1969 that the witnesses first visited my mom.
my mom was in the front yard watching us kids when jw's came door-to-door.
that sister and my mom are still friends to this day.. anyway, my mom started studying.
My Grandfather was a pioneer (Colpreteur-not sure spelling) in the 30's, selling religion through Southern Africa, not so sure of his story.
Met Gran on his travels. Married, settled down, and my father was a good little JW with his brother. As a young adult my dad left home to work in Johannesburg and then faded fast. Met and married a sunday school teacher. (can you believe this?) She had no impact on his views.
I was born and he decided he must not withhold the 'truth' from his offspring.
Back into the Borg he went and he dragged mom and I with him.
Mom and pop is still in.
I escaped.
Agent Smith
everyone seems to just hate the wt.. i am very upset with the way ive been treated but i dont hate them.. they have given me huge self confidence after helping me out of depression, although i have a fab counsellor, so they cant get all the credit.
they have made me independent as well, (i think my ex-study conductor regrets that!
) i suddenly have a mind of my own and am not afraid to use it.. i owe them quite a lot they have really helped me through some bad times but they have created some bad times for me too.
At the time I thought I got lots. True friends that accept you. An orginization that has my best interests at heart. Ehr......not so much after all.
Its hard to think of anything that was permanent. It was just 'valueless things'.
I suppose I could have been in a family that condoned drug use, teen sex, and alchohol abuse, and for that I am thankful.
However there were brothers growing up in similar circumstances as I, and became drug addicts, one had an illigitimate child and my one mate turned out to be gay! Being a JW made no difference to them. They did not become the clean cut sales team as required by the Borg and was cut loose. And I was forced to shun them. I regret that I obeyed that rule.
Agent Smith
he's even on t.v here in australia!
"youtube" has his false prphecies from the early 90's.
qoute: "soon god will destroy american homosexuals....with fire!
Maybe Benny was 'tacking' so that it only looks like his prophesies are bogus. In fact he was just lighting candles on opposite sides of the room. He could use the new light explanation as well.
AgentSmith
give it your best educated guess.
how long do you guys think it has left?.
personally, i think it has about 10 years before the org's leadership disolves and the religion splinters into hundreds of adorable little jw-like cults..
Ditto
does anyone who chats here live in south africa?
i feel a bit lonely, haven't really seen anyone from sa here yet.... "i see no good reasons why the views given in this volume should shock the religious sensibilities of anyone.
" -- charles darwin, the origin of species, 1869.
LOL @ LouBelle. I realise the Northerners use gas more for outdoor cooking than us Souf Efrikens.
Rooikrans and kameeldoring, the best way to cook a steak....mmm nou is ek ook honger..pap en wors...yummm. (Translation: Now I am hungry as well,... porridge and sausage. Staple fare for a cookout)
The meet up sounds great! We are in Cape Town, and unable to travel at the moment. Jakes gets to CT every now and then. Lets make a date.!
Smith
does anyone who chats here live in south africa?
i feel a bit lonely, haven't really seen anyone from sa here yet.... "i see no good reasons why the views given in this volume should shock the religious sensibilities of anyone.
" -- charles darwin, the origin of species, 1869.
Hoezit daar ouens! (Hi there guys)
South African here. The lovely Mrs Smith, of course. Jakes is also from SA.
That braai sounds like a good idea. Tjop en dop? (Piece of meat, and alhohol) Similar type of thing as a bar-b-Q.
Agent Smith
roll call, just as it is written i am not afraid what can man do to me.
my name is shane draney i live in ogden utah, i am supposed to be going to the roy city congregation but i am not going to so there!
but you never know since i was raised in it, its been hard to shed drinking the cool aid.. .
Just call me Smith. Seriously, the Agent part is just a title.
Agent Smith
roll call, just as it is written i am not afraid what can man do to me.
my name is shane draney i live in ogden utah, i am supposed to be going to the roy city congregation but i am not going to so there!
but you never know since i was raised in it, its been hard to shed drinking the cool aid.. .
be sure to wish our dear friend, 'mouthy' a big happy birthday this friday, may 22nd!
wishing you many more, and wish we could .
outaservice.
Happy Birthday!! Love you lots Grace. You are a star. Thanks for the help, messages and recordings you sent us. Thank you thank you thank you!
Have a brilliant day.!!
Agent Smith
